Cheer up...there's no need to be Nazi

[dannyboy660]

Bad day??

 

project65.net

 

Remember the guys (and gals) who made D-Day possible??

 

I hope you do, because they are only a generation ago.

 

Remember the action in Afghanistan or Iraq??

 

How easy is it to forget in this 'modern age', when your 'priority debts' bother your backside.

 

 

 

 

THIS is where your loyalty should lie.........and make no mistake about it.

[ukaviator]

This is a good project. I am suprised that this has'nt been done already.

[Robdblynd]

Brilliant project, shame it took so long for someone to think of it.

 

My OH will be interested, his father was a pathfinder and parachuted into Holland 3 days before the main landings to map out the LZs and DZs.

[dannyboy660]

 

Try so hard...but you can't put into words............

 

 

 

Come on Ukaviator...........help me with this one..........

[dannyboy660]

I hope people will give to a worthy cause, rather than send it to Lowell and the rest of them!!!!

[Mr lex]

Yep, exellent project, I'll sponsor it!

[dannyboy660]

LiveLeak.com - Danish Troops in Firefight With Taliban

 

Breaks my heart that noboby takes it seriously.

[dannyboy660]

YouTube - Market Garden Tribute

[cassie2006]

I;ve just watched this and about 37 secs in it shows our boys in a plane................

 

Look at their faces..............They were only babies...................... such sorrow left behind...............

[dannyboy660]

 

 

 

DO NOT GIVE YOUR MONEY TO LOWELL>>>etc

 

 

 

 

YOU KNOW IT MAKES SENSE!!!!!!

[dannyboy660]

Only a matter of time before I get shouted out.........

 

 

Support what counts!!!!!!!!

[dannyboy660]

Farmers Boys - The Duke of Edinburgh's Royal Regiment - Home Page

 

 

 

Maybe, one day...........

[dannyboy660]

I don't want to be accused of not doing my bit for Europe....

 

YouTube - 2 REP slideshow

 

...be upstanding please for the Legion Etrangere.....

[dannyboy660]

Suddenly I feel comfortable again.

 

 

 

OK.

[dannyboy660]

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If only you knew....

[blueskies]

As a pacifist I don't agree with all the parading/ pomp and circumstance associated with the remembrance of people who fought and died for this country.

I do agree that war is sometimes a necessary evil but the last justifiable war involving Britain in my opinion was WW2.

I have been privileged to have been invited to the remembrance day services in Harelbeke, Belgium.

The services there are completely different. I attended the ceremony at the Menin Gate in Ypres on the 10th November, which is a British ceremony. As you would expect you had all the pageantry as happens at the cenotaph every year. To contrast this though was the way the Belgians remember. On the morning of the 11th we gathered for a quiet service at a British war graves cemetery, led by the town mayor. Then walked along into the town, pausing at a site where the retreating German army killed a lot of the men of the town in 1918, before a very low key and sombre ceremony in the town's main church. Not one person was in any form of uniform apart from the police and fire brigade that were working at the time.

During remembrance day I think about all those who have been lost in armed conflict. Not only our forces but those of all the nations involved, including enemy forces, and especially the civilian populations that have been killed over the years.

[dannyboy660]

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[Hippy-chick]

Dannyboy - I don't want to pick a fight with you.

 

But I'll give my money to who I choose and no amount of you posting here will change that. I find it very annoying, to say the least, that you think you can push YOUR allegiances up our noses.

 

Bluey - I agree about WW2. Can't find my reference, but this is the received view in the theory of war, I think.

[dannyboy660]

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[dannyboy660]

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[Hippy-chick]

 

We have to establish peace in the Middle East, even if it is by force.

 

 

So it's for their own good that invade their county by force and kill however many folk in the process? The lives that are sacrificed are worth it because of the result? What about the individual rights to life of all of those lost?

 

 

They fight over what type of bacon to eat, or if a woman is entitled to education.

 

There is no doubt. They ALL have a right to know.

 

Erm ... I think they just don't eat bacon. Never seen them fighting over the merits of different types.

 

I agree about the right to education. I disagree with your method of enforcing it.

[blueskies]

I disagree strongly with the west's determination to enforce our particular brand of 'democracy' across the world.

 

Why should we have a say on which foods people from religious groups eat, what clothing they should wear. We should be promoting a culture of tolerance but in fact we a promoting intolerance by our very methods of delivering it.

 

We only choose to engage in war where we have a financial interest to do so. If this was not the case then why have we not invaded Zimbabwe? Religious intolerance, political murders, inhumane treatment of women. You name it Mugabe has done it.

[dannyboy660]

So it's for their own good that invade their county by force and kill however many folk in the process? The lives that are sacrificed are worth it because of the result? What about the individual rights to life of all of those lost?

 

Erm ... I think they just don't eat bacon. Never seen them fighting over the merits of different types.

 

I agree about the right to education. I disagree with your method of enforcing it.

 

 

We won't agree,............ and that's a fact.

 

 

I'll quite happily sit here and wait for the day you'll give a voice to the veiled nobodies.......and the enslaved kids.

 

Please excuse me if I've broken some kind of "sit back and let you Pontificate" rule because I might be prepared to take you on on that one.......(Ooooh .....Imagine!!!!)

 

 

YES.......BY FORCE........

 

 

 

 

Can you believe that even in 21C Some women think they are S..t because they've been told so?????

 

 

 

I can't believe I'm having this conversation!!!!!!!

[tiglet]

"they" And who would "they" be, Dannyboy?

 

Are we talking the Muslim "they"? The Jewish "they"? Are we talking the Christian "they"? Or are we talking about any of the other religious or non-religious "they"?

 

There's always a them. You are so supportive of the military and yet you seem to fail to grasp that it is precisely because of British military expansionism during the time of the Empire which has led to all of these problems.

 

Denying women an education? Well, this country is hardly any better in the educational stakes - myself and others on this forum have been or are currently fighting to get an education (or appropriate education) for our children because of the lack of ready help for those with disabilities. Prejudice against the mentally or physically impaired? Hmm, wasn't Hitler for that with his eugenics programmes?

 

As for women in education, this has only really improved in te last 20 years or so - and if you bring childcare into the equation, only really in the last 5 years or so.

 

I would also like to point out that Iran had a very liberal education system and view of women until a regime was elected in because of the fears the populus had about the agressive West.

 

I disagree with Bluey & HC about the last WW being the last one to have any real ethical value (paraphrasing here) because of the genocide which occurred in Bosnia and Kosovo - I feel very proud that we got involved in that.

 

This thread has gone from being supportive of our armed forces into being supportive of whatever military action our government dictates - please don't confuse the two.

 

I think this is potentially a very inflammatory thread, and quite disgusting too, when "they" are mentioned.

 

Remember Dannyboy - sometimes "they" are "us".

[Bookworm]

I disagree with Bluey & HC about the last WW being the last one to have any real ethical value (paraphrasing here) because of the genocide which occurred in Bosnia and Kosovo - I feel very proud that we got involved in that.

Then you should discuss this with someone like my brother, who worked in humanitarian in the Balkans for over 10 years, and saw first hand things very different than what the BBC portrayed. You might change your mind on that one too. :-|