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    • I've just noted that in Section 4 of the ebay powered by packlink T&Cs, there is a link to a list of webpages for each Transport Agency including Evri. When clicking on this, it redirects to Evri's send terms and conditions, which says: Our contract with you When you send a parcel with us, you enter into a contract with Evri. These terms and conditions set out your responsibilities and our service commitments to you, along with some legal bits about our liability and how you will be compensated in the unlikely event that things go wrong. Link to Evri send T&Cs: https://www.evri.com/terms-and-conditions the extract highlighted in bold above is pertinent as in Evri's own T&Cs, by sending a parcel with Evri, the sender and Evri have entered into a contract. Screenshot of the above extract attached. Screenshot_20240524_030834_Chrome.pdf
    • Hi, Evri provided a copy of the Ebay powered by Packlink T&Cs in their WS/Court bundle - this is already uploaded in post #246 yesterday. I copy and pasted the actual wording of clauses 3b and 3c from there into my post #246. see points 3b and 3c in Section 3 (General) through this link to the T&Cs:  https://support-ebay.packlink.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360004768420-eBay-Delivery-Powered-by-Packlink-Terms-and-Conditions#h_01HFXQJBTB441YZGPB7CQP9KFV Screenshot attached below. I cant answer why its not been picked up before. In my opinion, this is called Ebay powered by packlink T&Cs so it could be intepreted to mean Ebay and Packlink's T&Cs rather than Packlink and the delivery couriers T&Cs. In regards to seeing Evri/Packlink's entire contract in original form, in my WS, Evri has been invited to provide this. They have not provided the contract in their WS/court bundle. Screenshot_20240524_024259_Chrome.pdf
    • yes, and he has since emailed them to say he wants it done with a hearing
    • Do I take it that you had already informed the court that you wanted the case settled on the papers rather than by way of a hearing before you came here and told us?
    • This is a very important find. I don't understand why nobody has picked up on this before. It's a shame that you have only just found it but please will you get a screenshot and also give us a link to the page which contains this and if possible a link to the actual passage. This makes a huge difference because if this is right that the third party actually has a direct contract with the courier company then they can rely on their consumer rights rather than commercial rights. Also as you seem to have pointed out, even if  their commercial contract does exclude third-party rights, the clause that you have found on the eBay site directly contradicts that And this should be pointed out to the judge.  Please will you screenshot the passage. Give us a link and then stand by for a response later on today. We will have to send this additional piece of information to the court and don't worry we will manage to do it before the 4:00 pm deadline. And in any event, you will certainly want to see the entire contract in original form and receive clarification as to when their third-party exclusion close was included in it.
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

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I was wondering if anyone can help me - I probably received whilst I was an estate agent about £3000 worth of parking fines.

 

I would like to back over them and check they are all as they should have been - but I have no paperwork to do this.

 

I cant even remember the registration numbers of my previous vehicles - can anybody let me know how I would find out the vehicles that I previously owned.

 

Also how I would go about getting the ticket information from the councils.

 

Thank you, kiri260180

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Your insurers may be able to help with reg nos.

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I receive an unwieldy number of private messages. I am happy to respond to messages posted on open forum but am unable to respond to private messages, seeking advice, when the substance of that message should properly be on the open forum.

Many thanks for your assistance and understanding on this.

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Furthermore to Chesterexpress.

 

I am no longer an estate agent and I always acted with the utmost integrity.

 

I would help anybody on this site if they needed it - no matter what profession they were.

 

At the end of the day people have to earn money - cant begrudge them that and sometimes it is in professions that other people may not like but that doesn't mean that we should not help them.

 

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