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    • They did reply to my defence stating it would fail and enclosed copies of NOA, DN Term letter and account statements. All copies of T&C's that could be reconstructions and the IP address on there resolves to the town where MBNA offices are, not my location
    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Need some advice here, very annoyed, but may be hopeless....

OH had a car accident in July in a country road. Wet road, oncoming vehicle. He pulls over and stops to let the oncoming vehicle pass. Guy was speeding. loses control ,skids and slams head on into our car, pushing the car backwards causing front and rear side damage. He has only front end damage. No eye witnesses. Police refuses to come out as no-one injured. Other guy is driving a company car, gives OH name and phone number and drives off.

We report incident to our insurers, who hand the issue over to the legal department as we have legal cover.

Car gets fixed quickly but we have to fork out just under £300.- excess which we intend to get back from the other parties insurers.

It is now October and solicitors have just written to us stating that the other parties insurers are refusing to pay anything as the other driver is claiming my OH caused the accident by driving into him. I.e. same story but other way around.

The guy is lying and the accident damage to both vehicles supports this as ou vehicle was the one that got pushed back due to the impact causing damage at the back. That would not have been possible if our vehicle was the forward moving one

Sols however said it should not be pursued any further and want to wash their hands off it as no chance of success in court

Any ideas anyone. Still worth pursuing or not ? :mad:

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Take it that you didn't take any photographs at the scene? If it were me, then I would insist on taking it further. If what you say is correct visit the scene and take photographs to show how the damage would have happened to the rear of your car (must have been pushed back into something). With these and the engineers report you ought to be able to make a case in your favour. Good luck

 

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Hi

 

yes, of course I took photos and they have been sent to the sols with my report

Also the repair garages for both vehicles should have documented the damage anyway and it can be seen on the breakdown for the repairs

The other guy only had front end damage and I had front and rear end damage :mad:

 

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In that case I suggest putting the facts to the solicitor again and insist that he takes professional advice from an accident investigator regarding the damage. With the photographs and the AI's report you should have a very good case.

 

Just a thought, the insurance companies wouldn't happen to be the same would they?

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Good point, no they are

\a) Hastings Direct (Donns LLP = solicitors) ME

b) Norwich Union OTHER PARTY

 

I have sent a letter to the solicitors today as follows:

 

"Accident date .....July 2007

Reference ABCDEFG

 

Dear Ms XYZ

 

I am in receipt of your letter dated XXXXX the contents of which have been noted.

 

Unfortunately I do not agree with your statement that there is no conclusive evidence in this case.

 

Obviously if both parties are claiming the same story for themselves, only one party can actually be telling the truth in this case.

We cannot possibly both be telling the truth.

Taking this as a given and the fact that there are no eye witnesses and unfortunately the police refusing to attend the scene due to nobody being injured, the only conclusive evidence is actually the damage on both vehicles which was independently recorded by the repairers and also through photos taken of my vehicle.

Both parties claim their vehicle was stationary at the moment of impact.

This can only be true for one vehicle.

A vehicle that is stationary and is hit head on by a moving vehicle will be pushed backwards.

My vehicle sustained a long deep scratch on the rear passenger door and further damage to the trims where my car was pushed into a bordering wall.

The other vehicle did not sustain any rear damage only front end damage. A receipt or breakdown of the repairs carried out on the other car should confirm this.

You may wish to ask the other parties insurers for details of the damage on the other parties car. The obvious question is: Where did the rear damage come from on my car if I was the one moving forward and driving into a stationary vehicle?

The damage on my car is conclusive and supportive of my version of events.

 

Going by your terminology “the third party insurers are alleging that their insured….” it would appear you did not actually receive and study the other parties accident report but are going only by what you are being told ?

 

Could you confirm you have received and read the other accident report as written by the driver of the other vehicle with any supportive evidence such as photos and drawings and a receipt for the repairs carried out as was submitted by myself ?

 

Please be advised I do not accept the statements given by the other party for the reasons shown above.

It would be shocking to see someone causing an accident by careless driving and subsequently quite obviously not telling the truth should be getting away with it so easily. The law must be applied firmer to force people like that accepting their responsibility and liability.

 

At least further questioning of the person who caused the accident, pointing out the obvious flaws in their story and probing further may send the correct message, that things should not, and will not be that easy.

 

I am sure you will appreciate £275.- is a lot of money to spend on an accident I did not cause not even mentioning potential repercussions with regards to no claims discounts.

 

Therefore at this stage I cannot give any consent to accept the proposed “settlement” as in my opinion the evidence is there and is by no means conflicting.

 

I am looking forward to hearing from you

 

With best regards

 

The Phantom"

 

I will see what they say to that. It appears they just cannot be bothered with it. As they can't claim injury compensation etc there is probably not enough in it for them, but then I do not need any legal cover, what they have done so far I could easily have done myself just by going on this site and asking

It is very annoying :x

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If I was you id go into your local town or nearest city look for a reputable law firm or a large one check they have a personal injury department usually can check them out online too and ask them to take it over on a no win no fee. Dont use any middle person that advertises lots and wants to pass your details on, some are ok some not.

 

Your Solicitors dealing with it don't seem interested sounds like they was appointed by your insurance co. They would pass your file on to the new solicitor who could give you a fresh second opinion and will more than likely take it on and win if it wasn't your fault.

 

Good luck:grin:

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Quite right, the solicitors dealing with it now are part of / working for my insurance company and were appointed by them because I have legal cover

At the moment I am wondering why I ever took out this extra legal cover

These sols are useless, they only move if chased up and then after three months all they say is, let's accept what the other party says/ suggests and move on.

Sorry it is not what you expected :eek:

Not what I expected ? You are kidding me. It's not my fault, I lost money and this is all I get for my legal cover ? :x

I am still fuming but if they won't shift their backsides I will do as you say and find someone else 8-)

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They wont do much work because they get so many clients free from your insurer if you find someone yourself they will look at you as their customer and try and do their best for you :-) thats how its meant to wor

 

They would be able to get your old file and maybe even use that LEI cover if your insurer are ok with it or just use the no win no fee same thing really.

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Five months later this is still dragging on

I have refused the solicitors suggestion to accept the other insurers proposal, but they insist that a 50/50 settlement is the best I can hope for even if it goes to court

Can someone explain to me what 50/50 means exactly ?

Does this mean the other parties insurers will pay their clients damage and my insurer will pay my damage and I pay my own excess ?

In that case the insurers of the guilty party will be in a win win scenario, as their clients appear to have third party only or TPFT cover only, in which case their insurance ends up paying nothing although their client caused the accident, whilst my insurance pays for the damage to my car (caused by someone else) and I pay my own excess.

(I had a number of phone calls from the person causing the accident asking me to admit full liability so they could get their car repaired, which leads me to believe they don't have fully comp insurance..)

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(I had a number of phone calls from the person causing the accident asking me to admit full liability so they could get their car repaired, which leads me to believe they don't have fully comp insurance..)

 

Did you record the calls?

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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They could come in useful then, what exactly was discussed apart from him asking you to take the rap? Did he say anything that was tantamount to an admission of guilt?

Opinions given herein are made informally by myself as a lay-person in good faith based on personal experience. For legal advice you must always consult a registered and insured lawyer.

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Actually nothing was discussed. They only had our mobile number, not the landline, so they kept calling the mobile, leaving messages.

They were initially just messages to call them, which we ignored and then messages to say we had to admit liability so they could get their car repaired and we should do that by phoning them back straight away

As we did not cause the accident we did no such thing and the solicitor also told us not to phone them back

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After getting a letter from the sols our insurance wrote to us advising us they would not back court action as they also thought a 50/50 was good enough.

Only after I wrote back to them and basically unleashed hell in my letter telling them I would hold them responsible for MY losses if they now denied me my legal cover they wrote back and said they would be happy to re-assess the matter :mad:

My opinion is the matter can never be a 50/50 because one vehicle drove into a stationary vehicle after loosing control. Both parties claim this story for themselves. All that needs to be established is which party is lying and the damage on the vehicles tells a very one sided story here. So once it has been established who is lying it is not and never will be a 50/50 but I don't appear to get through to anybody

Is what I am saying not logical ?

Also the fact that the other party quite obviously only has got TPFT or TP cover would add to the theory that they were quite happy to be conservative with the truth on their insurance claim and keen to put the blame on me.

If you look at the overall picture I wonder whether this may not be enough to convince a judge on probability especially as the damage on the cars is irrefutable.

If I had been the forward moving vehicle, why have I got damage at the back and side of my car, if I wasn't pushed backwards ? :|

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At the moment I am wondering why I ever took out this extra legal cover

These sols are useless, they only move if chased up and then after three months all they say is, let's accept what the other party says/ suggests and move on.

Sorry it is not what you expected :eek:

 

I completely agree with you and I have been trying to tell people for years that insurers appointed solicitors/LEI are mostly a waste of time. The reason is that these solicitors deal with thousands of cases every month and ultimately are not interested in difficult or contested claims, they only like the bankers. They generate huge profits from these easy claims and aren't bothered by dropping a small percentage.

 

You're better off going to a solicitor or claims management company who have something to gain by winning your claim.

 

Are you only claiming for accident damage or are there injury damages in the claim also?

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