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Hi all After doing a lot of research, the general opinion, from enforcers from the police to bailiffs, Seems to be if we have done wrong you can get remedy through the court process, so pay up and correct afterwards. examples arrest for possible breach of the peace, mainly when EA's are involved. social services we will take your children for possible future harm. When was this changed from the accuser has to prove, to the accused has to prove. 3rd party has to prove property is theirs,They should not have to prove anything, just to make it easy for the enforcer whether an EA or police. In this country of ours you are meant to be innocent until proven guilty. Just want caggers views Leakie