Hello All, I received a PCN from HX Car Park Management in the mail a few weeks ago. The contravention was that the pay and display ticket was face down. The "charge" was £100, discounted to £60 if paid quickly. Needless to say, I appealed, pointing out that: I would not identify the driver. There was no suggestion that the daily parking fee was not paid. Their photographs show a ticket displayed on the dashboard. The tickets issued at this car park are a different colour each day making it obvious that a valid ticket had been purchased. These is an attendant on duty to take payment, making parking without paying the fee extremely unlikely The tickets issued do not make any reference to the terms and conditions, merely point out that "parking at own risk" No loss has been suffered by the owners of the car park HX should have enquired with the attendant as to the validity of the ticket in my vehicle. No notice was attached to the vehicle, nothing to indicate anything was amiss until the PCN arrived in the post. That this behaviour strikes me as a predatory and underhand tactic That this was a "Fluttering Ticket" caused by the wind at the time or soon after the driver left the vehicle, A reference to case C8GF30W7 Link Parking v Mr H, 14/11/2016 Port Talbot, where the court rules it was the responsibility of the parking company to provide self adhesive tickets. That the signage is confusing, instructing motorists to "park in marked bays". This car park is on rough ground and not a single marked bay is present. This makes any "contract" void. That their obtaining keeper details from the DVLA was most likely unlawful. It will come as no surprise that the appeal was rejected, since HX act as judge, jury and executioner in such cases. So I have also appealed further to the IPC, pointing out the same. HX's response is the same old BS … that the driver breached the terms and conditions and I am liable for the PCN. I now have a few days remaining to add any further information to the IPC appeal before the adjudication. Any suggestions as to anything else I might add? Am I wasting my time fighting this? Have I gone too far and should I just pay these blood suckers to go away ? -- skeet23

Hi to everyone on the forum. If anyone could offer any guidance with this problem I would be grateful. Traded in my car and purchased an Audi A4 from SSc Huddersfield on 17.01.16. Informed by the salesman that the car came with a spare key. Agreed at time of purchase that I would call by at a later date with the spare key of my trade in vehicle and I could collect the spare key of my new car. Stated on the sales invoice "spare key to be exchanged for p/x spare key". I received a txt on 03.02.16 asking to contact the sales guy regarding the spare keys. I phoned the guy and it was agreed I would call in their showroom on the following Saturday. Went to the dealers on the Saturday and handed over the spare key to my old car only to be told the key for new car was locked in a desk drawer and the person with the drawer key had gone home but not to worry we will post your key out Monday recorded delivery and that I would have Tuesday. I got home from work on the Tuesday evening and nothing had been delivered, I phoned the car dealership to speak with the salesperson only to be told he was busy and would call me after 18.00. No phone call received. I phoned again Wednesday and got hold of the salesperson I had been dealing with from the start, he told me that his assistant had been trying to phone me to confirm my address details so the key could be posted to me but she couldn't contact me . I told him I had not had any missed calls or voicemails, his reply was "oh I need to speak with my assistant, your key will be posted out tomorrow (11.02.16) and you will have it Friday. here we are today and no key has been delivered, I have emailed the dealers for the courier details and tracking number but have not received any reply yet. My problem is that to replace the spare key it costs around £250 to replace then the car needs taking into Audi and all keys need recoding, so not cheap. What steps would the people on this forum recommend taking next?