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  1. Good afternoon, Please advise with this PCN, i've stayed in that car park and paid for 4 hours ( Sunday) was late at the end of shopping day to leave car park in 15 minutes ( also take 5-10 minutes after we enter in the park and paid at the cash machine, as we waiting others customer who told us he will clear a space - only one at that time ), maybe that's why it give me now total 27 minutes overstayed paid 4 hours . ( I've assumed that's the reason for this PCN ) ""For tickets received through the post (Notice to Keeper) please answer the following questions: There were three tickets issued for the sake of clarity this is the answer for one of them: 1 Date of the infringement: 10/09/2017 2 Date on the NTK: 26/09/2017 3 Date received: 28/09/2017 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? No 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? No. ( just small note that CEL have photographic evidence ) 6 Have you appealed? No. Have you had a response? N/A 7 Who is the parking company? Civil Enforcment Ltd ( creditor) , 8 Exactly where [car park name and town]: in the basement, Dagehams Guildford, 164 Millbrook, GU1 3UU, 1 pond/per hour . For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. they have siad with small notes is the BPA. Also see attached my edited file (pdf extension- I've only deleted my name, address and car details). Please advise if I should start appealing based on that they send this letter after 14 days from incident date ? I must also ask them photographic evidence to better understand why is this PCN ? Thank you. Please rescan and redact the PCN number (showing in three places). Mr.P siteteam PCN ( saved ) - hiden name,car plate no..pdf PCN ( saved ) - hiden name,car plate no..pdf
  2. ive had a ticket from the same carpark and im being taken to court at the end of september, are you able to update as to how you got on and what defence you used? am i able to use your pictures? i parked at night time and was visiting Khans, didnt realise i would have to pay at 9pm, plus it was dark so missed the signs. im really hoping that at the very least i just pay the parking charge of £60 as now the charge is at £300 and i just think that is disgusting!
  3. Seems to be a trend on here and other website help forums, to ignore and even laugh off threats from CEL. Fortunately I have kept all correspondence and have been fighting this for my daughter since May 2016. Now she has been referred to the County Court Business Centre Northampton issue date 07/04/2017. In May 2016 my daughter had an appointment at a doctors surgery with her baby for injections. She is adamant she entered her car number plate on the screen inside the surgery but for some reason did not register. When the first letter arrived from CEL she approached the surgery to have it dismissed but was advised to be just out of time. As the letter came to my address she then emailed CEL with her new address and attached a letter with the appointment time from the surgery. This email was ignored I emailed CEL and informed them to refer to her change of address. Apart from getting a reply saying that I need permission from my daughter to act on her behalf, they still send letters to my address [ car registered there at the time ]. Looking for advice here for the best way to deal with these court papers. I understand parking needs to be governed but this seems unfair on my daughter whom the surgery were expecting. CEL Statement All visitors must register for a permit on a touch screen inside reception. If you park without obtaining a valid permit, you agree to pay £100. To deter abuse of this car park, these terms apply at all times. Additional costs will be incurred if payment is not received within 28 days. Arrival 10.53 20 Departure 11.12.37. Bill is now £327.04 including legal fees
  4. As reported on Parking Prankster... CEL have been ordered to pay £905 in compensation & costs for breaching the Data Protection Act in regards to a private parking ticket. Ouch! http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2017/05/motorist-awarded-900-for-data.html
  5. Hi all, I am a complete mess and in need of your advise pretty please. Two days ago I was rejected for credit and therefore checked my file- A CCJ had been ordered on 24.02.2016! from CEL. I received first correspondence from them on 20.01.2016 relating to a date in May 2013- clearly I had to try and recall that date in question as it was three years previous. I was also cautious of the fact it could be a fraud type letter and didn't act. I then received another on 12.02.2016 stating the charge had gone up to £220 and after pinpointing this was a car parking fine I contacted the restaurant in question to make a complaint. I found out they were currently in dispute with CEL regarding over 15 claims as they were chasing historic fines from 2013 where customers had overstayed two hours, although there was a three hour window. I was in communication with them and CEL via email but did not contact them direct to admit any liability due to the dispute. I did not receive any other letters regarding court dates etc.. from CEL. However, it looks like they went ahead and gave me a judgment without my knowledge- and now it is too late to pay within 28 days as I had no idea it had occurred until this weekend when applying for a loan and being refused credit for the first time ever! I have emailed CEL directly yesterday stating that I have not had the opportunity to dispute/ respond to the court date/ judgment and today their legal team would be in agreement to having it set aside by Consent. I literally do not know what my next step is.. Do I still apply for a N244 stating I was unaware AND I potentially have a defence (less than three hours stay as a proven restaurant customer) or is there a different way to do this? Does it go to my local court or Northampton where it was issued? As much as I do not agree with their conduct, I would rather just pay whatever I need to in order to protect my credit file which also impacts my future employment choices as well as having an adverse credit file.
  6. I am a licensed Hackney carriage driver and operate and drive a wheelchair accessible taxi. On Christmas Day, I was booked to collect a disabled person in her wheelchair. I parked outside the reception with my ramps out. I went to reception and explained who I was and the reason. The passenger who is disabled eventually pushed herself to the reception in her wheelchair and I wheeled her into my taxi and left. The receptionist never told me that I had 30 minutes before I would be fined. I have received my 3rd letter from CEL, threatening Court action. I understand that I was less then one minute over the 30 minute "free" period as is permitted in their car park. I was under the arch outside reception the whole time. I have read that I should ignore these demands but would like clarification please as I don't want to get a CCJ over this. Thanks.
  7. Hi All I have just received an email from the SRA with regards to M Shartz solicitor for DEAL and CEL. I thought i would share it with Everyone. Cheers Lets
  8. A relative asked for help with a Civil Enforcement Ltd PCN. I knew time would be tight with when the CofA appeal (Parking Eye v Beavis) was due. When the judgement was released, I didn't have access to the judgement, and I wrote the appeal (pdf attached), bearing in mind what I saw online discussing the judgement. Now the judgement is up on e.g. BAILIL, I find that councils and their charges are mentioned: So, not in the way I had heard ; the CofA didn't actually say "charges in proportion to council charges are allowed", and in particular didn't say "charges disproportionate to council charges aren't allowed" (though ..... they still might?). They cancelled their PCN in response : Did we strike lucky?.
  9. If you have had a county court claim form from either CEL or Creative Parking (ar any of the other Creative group of companies) can you please let me know via this posting. I cannot say why this is important at the moment but it could be very big. I will need to see the particulars of claim so if you have binned them after getting a discontinuance notice please just let me know the date details.
  10. http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/civil-enforcement-ltd-in-criminal-case.html Civil Enforcement Ltd in Criminal case in Aberdeen Book your front row seat and popcorn for: Aberdeen Sheriff Court Wednesday 4th March 2015 Criminal #17 Civil Enforcement Ltd SCS/2015-025464 AB14012607 Court 1A Civil Enforcement Ltd (CEL) is being prosecuted for: One count of operating a fraudulent scheme and 11 counts under the consumer contract regulations. This is an initial hearing which CEL are unlikely to attend. However the Procurator Fiscal has indicated that if they do not attend, warrants will be issued for the arrest and detention of directors so that they can be brought before the court. Prankster Note It might well be hard to find an actual director of CEL, what with a dormant shell company and a South African hired name as apparent straw man. The Prankster suggests getting in touch with Ashley Cohen and Gary Wayne to see if they know of the real people in charge. They don't muck about in Scotland! CEL have been abusing the English court system for years, and despite numerous complaints have been getting away with it. They dipped a toe over the border and now are well and truly in the system. Happy Parking The Parking Prankster
  11. Private parking company Civil Enforcement Ltd (CEL) is well known across parking forums for issuing court claims, but often not turning up at court. Until recently they had contracts at several Co-op supermarket car parks, but following 'contractual disagreements' their contract was terminated by the Co-op. CEL threw a hissy fit and started ticketing Co-op employees and then refused to cancel tickets, with the result that CEL (and their debt collectors DEAL) currently have 50 court claims on the go against Co-op employees. The 50 outstanding cases have now been stayed until at least 31st of March, until 2 test cases are heard. Anyone with a court case with Civil Enforcement Limited should ask for it to be stayed until the test case of Civil Enforcement Limited v Curtis A93YM708 is heard. Anyone with a court case with DEAL should ask for it to be stayed until the test case of DEAL v Colclough A79YP365. The full story is here: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/cel-turn-up-to-court-50-cases-of.html
  12. Hello once more! I took the advice from here and ignored all letters / made no contact after receiving an "invoice" from CEL after a short overstay in a car park back in 2009, over five years ago. I've now received from Civil Enforcement Ltd (CEL) a Notice of Assignment of Debt letter saying the "debt" has been moved to Debt Enforcement and Action Limited. I've had a look around on here and it appears that the advice given now is different to what was given back then so I'm wondering it it's still a case of keep ignoring or that I have to do something. Any advice is gratefully received. Thank you.
  13. Hi, Ive got a case similar to the thread relating to' Civil Enforcement LTD now have court docs'. I'm was wondering if anyone would be able to help me through the process. I'm trying to get through pranksters guide etc. I'm wondering how I go about getting the info about who is the landowner etc?? Thanks
  14. Received a final reminder before court action this morning after previously ignoring letters. I'm in Scotland and have read the advice to ignore but I'm just posting for some reassurance!
  15. Had an email today from the Coop (I am a member) telling me "Today is the day we launch our new collaborative website ‘Let’s Talk’. So please give us your ideas and together we can deliver the products and services you need, champion the things you care about and support you and your local community" Perhaps their 'relationship' with Civil Enforcement Limited (CEL) might be something you want to 'talk' to them about? type: "co-opletstalk.co.uk/championing-a-better-way/"
  16. I dropped my wife at local hospital , drove down the road in to a car park. Sign said 2hrs free then 80p per hour. The signs were yellow and quite tatty. I remember looking at one of the posts because it was leaning over at an angle. Left car park 40 mins after entering feeling chuffed because I had saved £2.50 by not parking at hospital.. .Now got CEL invoice for £100/£60. I went back to the car park and it has all new blue signs. They say 7pm-7am 2hrs free then X per hr 7am-7pm 20mins free then X per hour. Also no contract signage at all. The date of "offence" 12/12/13 PCN issue date 31/12/13. I have read a lot on this site and from what I understand this is not enforcable because they are outside the 14 days. I know looking back on this site that the old advice was to IGNORE but is that the case now? The new signs are a good 10 feet from the ground you can not see them unless you get out of your car. Can anyone help with what I should do next.
  17. CEL rode into Whitby Town in midsummer 2012 and caused uproar with Co-op customers and visitors, especially since Spring 2013 with their "Ten Minute Rule". I've been waging war on them since, and started a Facebook protest page. October 2013 they were sacked! Rumour has it they've lost dozens of other Co-op sites too!! Having had both of my PCNs cancelled I left the Protest Page running, even though a second one started. Where we are now up to is fighting their "ten minute rule" - a moneymaker if ever I saw one, and we now have a set of images and an independent witness letter from myself initially - but we will soon have several. I'd like to hear from anyone either still being chased for payment under this rule, or else who has paid it under pressure. Even if you've lost an appeal to POPLA, all is not lost - their evidence seems to trump yours ..... so far. but I'm confident that is about to change. At present we have a chance with the small numbers we have recruited. They reputedly check these forums so I don't want to put more details here, but if you care to PM me I'll let you know how to take it forward. Remember, no addresses, vehicle or PCN numbers, NOTHING WHICH ENABLES YOU TO BE POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED! I'll post any progress here.
  18. Hi I was on a short while ago about a PCN picked up in Whitby and 'enforced' by CEL. The last letter said it was being passed from DR+ back to CEL with advice to commence court proceedings. Just had letter today on CEL headed saying part of debt has been assigned to Debt Enforcement and Action Limited in Baker Street, London (£113.75). CEL "will no longer be involved in this part of the debt and payments must be made to DEAL" (?) "The balance of £16.25 has been retained by CEL as part of ongoing agreement relating to monies that may fall due to The Co-operative and we reserve our rights accordingly." Is this legal speak or complete crap? Do I need to be bothered? I am thinking not, but wanted to check with those who know more. Thanks in advance for your advice.
  19. Hi there - my husband received a parking charge notice from Civil Enforcement Ltd a few days ago for £75 for I had pulled into the car park to pick him up and also find a safe spot to feed my baby. I did not notice any signs as I drove through the entrance warning me I would be charged for waiting there. I didn't leave the car at any point. As with most people who receive a charge like this through the post, I'm pretty annoyed as I do not feel the signs were obvious enough. A £75 charge for failing to pay for 15 minutes is ridiculous. I have read a number of threads in relation to ignoring or appealing the charge, but some are quite old and I'm keen to hear from anyone who has ignored their demands or sent an appeal recently. How many/what letters can I expect to receive from them? How heavy do they get? Has anyone had bailiffs round? I understand in the past a registered keeper could claim he was not the driver (I drove into the car park and my husband drove out) but this can no longer be used as an argument? Thanks in advance for your help!
  20. Hello, A few months ago I visited this forum as I (well my wife did as she was driving the car) received a parking notice through the post. I took the advice of the forum and basically ignored the letters. Then I basically stuck my head in the ground! It has now got to the stage that another company have got involved which are demanding £178.13, the company is Newlyn. To say I am worried not is an understatement as they are saying in their 2nd letter about going to County Court and (in bold) stating 'Considerable further cost to you'. Are they allowed to do this? The cheek of it is that they have spelt my name incorrectly in all correspondence that they have sent me! Anyway, could someone please advise to what I should do now? oh, and your earliest reply would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Rob
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