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Eventually received a reply to my informal representations. They won't move from their position but seem to think a full 2 pages of blurb were required (in my mind this would indicate they are on the defensive). There's a surprise. However, I'm going to pay as I really can't be bothered to appeal or argue the toss. If it goes to adjudicator that will involve my time and money. Naturally I will be sending a stinking 2 page reply on their money grabbing [problem]. This will make me feel a lot better than saing £25!

well the 15-28 day period starts to day, so I think I'll submit a query regarding the "technical" validity of PCN

Ting - I think you are correct. I have sent informal representations already. Should I send additional with the comment that PCN is invalid, or wait for a reply from informal reps?

Thanks Ting - will get back to you after I have a look myself.

Thanks Ting. What do you mean by "Need the Rest" The image is the PCN issued in total - or do you mean the blurb on the back too?

Image of PCN:

ah but the disc dispenser was empty. No other dispenser was present. While I understand your point, I disagree. Everybody knows what a permit is and its function. I and I am sure many many other people will never have come across this Disc scheme. Indeed on an internet search it would appear almost exclusive to some remote Lancashire/Cumbrian towns in the whole of England. In a court case where the level or measure of "reasonable man on the street", in whatever context, is used as a benchmark. I doubt this would stand.

You could also sue for punative damages as the council are clearly acting unreasonably and negligently. Punative damages are used as a tool to make people/organisations think twice before they do stupid things repeatedly. I would write to the council demanding an apology (you would be surprised how stubborn they will be to say sorry) and pointing out quite clearly that should it happen again you will sue for deliberate and malicious behavoiur.

Yes the large square was present. But it gives NO indication, nor did any other signage of where to obtain the discs, other than the empty dispenser directly underneath. An additional item - I rang the Costa coffee shop we went to, opposite the parking place/signage. They had never heard of the scheme. (or should that be [problem]...) Will post copy of PCN shortly.

OK little addditional info from the Council website. " Disc parking Disc Zones offer free, time-limited parking on-street in Workington, Maryport, Aspatria, Wigton, Cockermouth and Keswick. You can obtain a free, clock disc (as illustrated) from some shops in the town centre, or from the Council centre in the town you are visiting. Alternatively, discs can be posted to you prior to your visit by emailing Parking Services at [email protected] or by phoning on 01900 702850. Display the disc showing the correct time of arrival on the dashboard of the vehicle so that arrival time can be seen from the outside of the vehicle. Disc Zones Check the disc zones signs - Times allowed vary from: 30 mins to 2 hours. Please ensure you return to your vehicle within the time limit to avoid receiving a Penalty Charge Notice. Please note that you may not alter a disc to obtain extra parking time, and once you leave a parking area, you must not return to the same street within the time specified on the sign." NONE of this is explained anywhere in the signage or area. While ignorance is no excuse, lack of information surely is?

Any help appreciated here as this is a new one to me. Parked in a DISC Zone today in Keswick. Signage said it was a Disc Zone, waitinf limited to 1 hour and no return within 4 hours. Underneath the signage was a dispenser for Blue discs. It was empty. There was no ther signage whatsoever indicating or explaining the nature of this Disc Parking. Returned within the hour to find a PCN slapped on screen. I noted that other cars had a blue (presumably) disabled type disc thing in windows. Surely if its disabled only it should be signposted as such? No raod markings either. Have yet to check the council website and legality of PCN. Advice sought. Thanks

Alec - I think you will find that most people who have or had debt problems particularly caused by or exacerbated by financial institutions use cash all the time. You know what you've got, or haven't got. Know what you've spent and keep the banks' [EDIT] hands off it. Once you get into the cash habit its something that sticks with you. I do use a credit card, because a lot of online stuff/holidays etc its the only way and at least you do get some protection (although some banks are trying, unsucessfully, to overturn this part of the CCA) But i always pay it off every month. Cash rules.

Get GOOD digitl photos of everything - the lines along there whole length - proof they apply to that street ie a more general view. Measure line widths and distances from kerb etc with ruler and take photos(with ruler). Check for T bars at end of each line. Signage on lamp posts. In our neck of woods and road works it is noticable that any yellow lines are replaced immediatly by the contractors - usually better than what was there before!

I would consider filling my wallet from the cashpoint as loading....

interestingly a work colleague, who had the same ticket, parked next to me, same day, has had her informal appeal turned down!