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  1. ok, clear. thanks for explaining. As they state to be 'non POFA' what legal grounds can they use to even attempt to go to court ? Surely adherence to POFA is not an option ?
  2. yes, I know, this is why I am intrigued to see if they are willing to see this thru to court. on the invoice too late thing, I reference this... "The landholder may apply to DVLA for vehicle keeper details under the reasonable cause provisions and send a notice to the registered keeper within 14 days of the alleged contravention" from... https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/9155/guidance-unpaid-parking-charges.pdf in the questionnaire it mentions 'must be received by you between 29-56 days' - where does this come from ?
  3. no clue on filling in stickies ! but assume these are the details you're asking.. The date of infringement? 24/10/2019 & 15/11/2019 2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] No have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days] Y what date is on it 13/11/2019 & 11/12/2019 Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? Y, reference to MNPR 3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) [Y/N?] “NON POFA” stated in the header 4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK, did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process? [it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] Reference to ukcps appeal process & then IAS 5 Who is the parking company? ukcps 6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park? On the NTK it states Gateway House Piccadilly station Manchester It is actually a service road off Store St, leading to a couple of car parks and a side entrance to the station
  4. I am totally with you on the gist of this - it is just a new twist on the ambulance chasing aspect of the legal 'profession'. Which is why I kinda want my day in court, rather than just have them leave me alone. I have some faith left in the system, can't believe we're completely in some Kafkaesque dystopian nightmare that means all we need to do is act as individuals in order to dodge being sucked in at all costs. Part of me really wants to find out if a court will actually defend the practices employed here, particularly the sudden introducing of a no stopping zone to a commonly used drop-off / pick-up point as a money making enterprise, and the subsequent menacing practices to extract payment. If all we do is act individually to find loopholes to avoid payment then all it will do is give these conmen chance to tighten up their act a bit and carry on regardless. The more they lose in court the harder it hits them, and perhaps slightly more likely that some legislation may follow to curb these practices.
  5. thanks for your feedback, I really appreciate it. A couple of points, first to "lookforinfo", I only have 2 'no stopping' notices, not 4. But it is not the maths that is driving me here, it is the feeling of total injustice. I really object to the machine here that is looking to exploit people who have not set out to commit any offence or act in any anti-social way. Accept that this might be a naïve perspective, but hey, life (& the 'system') have been good to me so far, maybe now is my time to step up a bit. I kinda don't want them to go away, just to go after more vulnerable people. Of course, this back fires if I go to court and they shaft me good & proper, I recognize that. As much as I despise this practice I am quite willing to believe that the people in these enterprises are not some kind of evil alien thugs, they are probably normally brought up and educated people. What have we come to that encourages normal people to work for organisations in this kind of exploitative business ? Just dodging the bullet here ain't going to be enough. To "FTMDave", in addition to above, I cling to certain things mentioned in other posts on this specific subject, particularly that Manchester courts are kindly to the citizen in this regard, than to the prosecuting organisation. I had intended to lay out all my objections in my dispute the claim letter but see you advise against this on 'keep your cards close to your chest' grounds. Hence, my abrupt dispute letter. As it happens, I know for a fact I wasn't the driver on each occasion, but I cannot for sure identify who was (though whoever it was they were legally entitled to drive my car). Again appreciate anyone reading this and bothered to reply, shoot me down if you like....
  6. how about this.... In this letter I confirm that I dispute the debt because it raises a number of aspects that should be properly addressed in a court of law. I contend that the practices employed are unreasonable in the extreme and will not be intimidated into any financial settlement regarding this claim. Please advise your client accordingly and proceed as you see fit.
  7. Hi dx100uk, the LBC received last wk relates to the 2 PCN's in late 2019, not 2 new ones. Seeing comments of others seems that after a few months hiatus things are moving again now with CST Law involved. Following advice on the forum I have not responded to anything so far. Similarly, have now prepared my snotty letter. (have to say they did make me laugh last yr - during first lockdown they offered a 10% Covid discount !!)
  8. just wanted to say that today (28-Jan) I recd LBC for 2 non-stoppings @ Man Picc station in Nov-Dec 2019. I'm going for the "I dispute the debt" option. Prepared for a day in court, should it go that far.
  9. Hi dx100uk, Thanks for the search suggestion - working my way thru those. About the letter of claim link, I have a few points... 1. this dates back to 2013, is this still current ? have there not been any changes to the law/procedure since ? 2. the process outlined is for someone bringing a claim, but I am bracing myself to defend a claim against me - is there a different write-up from the defensive position perspective ? 3. has anyone done a summary of recent (say last 12-18 months) court cases regarding parking charges on private land ? And specifically, when the case involved "not stopping" ? 4. can you expand a bit on your byelaws rule statement ? I know they do, but would like to know which one I am relying on! (I will post particulars in few days time, I am away from home right now) Thanks for your attention !!
  10. I have received 2 of these UKCPS "no stopping" charges at Manchester Piccadilly for instances in Oct & Nov. I am not paying, They will have to take me to court to get anything out of me. Have now received "Final Notice Letter" with charge now at £130. They threaten "enforcement action which could include County Court proceedings" if there is a failure to pay. Should it come to this, any advice how to proceed ? Googling "UKCPS Piccadilly" comes up with other forums on this topic, looks like the practice only started here in Oct, and many others have been caught. Seems elsewhere UKCPS do have a track record of taking people to court, so for sure they're much more experienced than me in these things ! Any suggestion or advice would be much appreciated.
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