Yes very good news in deed! 5.5 million they raked inlast year.....not bad for a run down filty car park that towers above a derelict shopping centre. One of the only restaurant owners left on the edge ofthe precinct got a 100.00 charge and why? .....because his passenger wheels were touching the white line. BUT on that particular side was the ticket machine so he was not stopping anyone parking there or depriving them of income.....but still got 100.00 from him. Just sickening to see them getting away with it. So glad i stuck with it.

thank you FTMDave. No i didnt go for costs. I know i should have done but it was never about the money for me but the principal. But i must admit i was quite a shock to see they had a fully fledged solicitor and 2 judges. At entering the court i did think omg why have i been so stubbon, why did i just not pay. ...… but then i thought no why should i.... .im right to defend myself. The Judge was most scathing about Popla too.... made sure I got my point in about how they offered to give 80% decisions in favour of car parking companies appeals etc., The Judge said they did not give me due consideration given such a minor error and therefore not fit for purpose. At one point they said that as i was suffering from such memory loss i should seek medical help and doubt i should even be on the road driving at all........ my reply was..... well sir, i doubt the claimant was in any position to judge my medical state as to my knowledge they were not medically qualified however in their WS they stated that i had written a letter to PPL on 27/05/2019 when in fact it was 27/05/2015 a date we had not yet arrived at, so maybe they too had such a condition where they could see into the future... ...a de minimis.. ..a small error... ..a blip in remembering what year we were in. The Judge could not help but slightly lower his head with what appeared to be a little smirk lol Mind you as advised by your colleagues on here, i did not actually mention in my WS anything about my memory .... .so maybe they read the pages on here???? When i am able and get some help .... i will still put up on here the event as i am sure it will help others. Thank you all so much.

Hello all. As you all told me i won the case against Premiere Parking Solutions Ltd. After a very stressful week (wed...moved house....thur...sisters funeral.....fri.....into court i went!) We have only today had our broadband reconnected and so couldn't repky earlier. I was shocked to be greeted at the court by PPL's Advocate asking if we could speak prior to going into court. .....i declined. I think the most important and i would say humiliating part of their defence was that they based their case on the rules of parking and contractual agreement. ...Unfortunately for them they were quoting from current day signage whereas my parking event was in 2015 and the rules etc have been completely re written. In addition to this their rules relied upon in this case were numbered 1 to 16 whereas i visited the car park 17/2 and there are only 2 signs quoting rules and both if those are numbered 1 to 13...... Further, i contacted the Torbay Planning Department by telephone and email and they did an investigation for me going back to 1991 and they emailed me back staying there is NO APPLICATION OR GRANTED PERMISSION FOR ANYONE (Land owner or Leese) TO ERECT ANPR OR SIGNAGE FOR ENFORCEMENT OR FOR ANY REASON IN THE CROSSWAYS CAR PARK. So i really hope that helps someone else.

Well like i said to erics brother im nit very techno........but my grandaughter will be her tomorrow and she may be able to help.....and if she cannot shes a nurse so she will make me feel better at least lol I did say if someone sent me a private message with an address i would gladly send the whole lot.....their ws my ws all the photos and all 58 pages of the Landowner Leese agreement with PPS Ltd......but to be honest thats a couple if hundred pages for me to try and scan in here or upload if thats the fraze??

Sorry folks but not made myself clear... ..i did submit on time.. ....14 days before hearing.Friday 22nd... ...case on 8th march. What i was saying was cannot understand why they have gone so far and going through with everything..... ..most of the advice on here is youve not seen a wrong reg number loose... ..so why are they carryjng on putting me through 4 years of harassment and now court .. ..cannot understand it!

Well case found in tbe claimants favour... ..same thing..... .well theres not much gone my way in the last few months sob sob sob ! Tbh i really hope this is dismissed because there must be millions of people who forget the reg numbers, their pin numbers, their passwords etc etc and really in this case all i have done is transpose 2 digits. I found a goid video. .. .not sure if you know of this but its from a man whk put a video on from a S Bedfordshire CC run car park called Ashton Square Dunstable and they use a barrier. ..ANPR … ..you go to the machine but if you put the wrong number in it wont let you proceed to pay until you do. It also gives you 10 mins either way if you did not want to stay. Perfect so PPS Ltd have no reason not to have their APNR camera sync with their ticket machines.. ..use all the millions from pcn,s to pay for it. Will they... ..100% not

Well that week will certainly be the mither of all weeks........we move house on the 5th. .....my sisters funeral on the 7th and convicted on the 8th!!!

Ok i will try. My grandaughter will be here tomorrow so will ask her to give me a hand.

No ericsbrother this is the full contract dated June 2010 for a 10 year leese and covers every aspect of tenure. IT IS 58 PAGES LONG it covers every area you could think of....especially if PPL Ltd dont clear the rubbish.....its all in there. To be honest its a joke because the car park is all but derelict.. As im not too good with the technical side on here if there is a way you can private message me and give me your address i will send you a copy. Also a copy of their claim against me my reply and all the photos from 2015 to 17th Feb 2019 you can upliad onto here whatever you like.

Well is there a way of you advising me how to do that. Its 58 pages.........i have a copy scanner........also i would not be braking data protection laws would i?

Mmm might need help with that lol im amazed i can keep getting back here, which i seem only able to do when one if you replies to me ! Plus what they have sent me is 80+ pages lol mostly the T&C and the contract between the Land Owner and PPS Ltd. Seems drazy to me as i read through that and none seems relevant to my situation. But i will look into seeing if I can get it all put on here....especially the result ....win or loose. Maybe my grandaughter will do it for me

I have received, today, the bundle of papers from BW Leagal........a whole tree! I see they sent it without me having the chance to address its content in my 'bundle' to the court. We are in court on the 8th March. I have read and re read all of the above advice and i have brought the handbook and researched the cases pointed out to me so thank you all for your help, input and advice. I will let you know the outcome. Either way! Just one thing to note. The person representing BWL has enclosed in her bundle the whole and complete leasing agreement between the land owner and the PPS Ltd.......makes interesting reading. Not that one word of it has any bearing on any area of this matter.

Thank you for that info. I rang Torbay planning and spoke to their officer, briefly outlining the problem... .i said i was searching on histirical planning apps for signage and camera authorities and could not find any and he looked and could not see any either. He asked me to do a formal request by email and he would look into it further. Seems a promising argument for my witness statement. The Torbay Planning have emailed me back saying they will look into it so. ..... .we have to see...… .but at least i have a copy of their email for my 'bundle'

Ive also found the name and address of the land owner so will be asking to see the contract LL agreement as you suggest Thank you so much everyone for your valued advice and help

Thank you for that. The photos from 2015 are very clear and dated in the bottom left hand corner, they were sent to me by their initial chasing solicitors WRIGHT HASSTLE LTD SOLICITORS..........stop laughing! They were very obliging in sending me the pics because one very important difference (apart from them having 13 rules now instead of 12 in 2015, which proves the current sign was not there in 2015)....is that the 2015 sign does not mention reg numbers at all, whereas it does now. on the machine it now has the words the you MUST ENTER REG CORRECTLY OR YOU WILL GET A PCN whereas on the same machine in 2015 it said YOU MAY.... ...which implies a choice. . ......so given a choice and i paid, parked etc correctly. ...they could have decided not to persue. Either way its very interesting they have changed the signs. i notice that NONE of the signs outside of the car park relate to the car park and none state ANPR in operation and the car park is up a slope.... ...at the top of the slope there are no visible signs for parking rules or consequences and again no sign for ANPR.......all areas have open walls so no signage on open fresh air.ANPR I will be typing out my WS and putting together my comparison photos... ....i also decided not to drive into the car park but still brought a ticket using 123 abcd as reg number..... .just so i could prove that i was in the car park yesterday using same meter. Oh how upsetting for them to have money.... ...with no car on the ANPR.... ....maybe they will donate that to charity lol lol