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  1. Hey green_and_mean, As today is the last day I can pay the reduced amount the council re-offered I just wanted to make sure I understand what it is I am appealing to the Tribunals service for. I have attached a PDF of the Rejection Letter of my Representations to the NTO from the council. I just wanted to be clear about which bits you mention exactly would be relevant for me to argue on. Appreciate your help! Sorry, I was replying to this post above, for some reason the quote didn't come up and I can't edit my previous response. Rejection of NTO Reps.pdf
  2. Hi all, Thanks for all the responses. I'm a bit confused now. It seems Spaceman69 is saying that "Procedural Impropriety" is not something I can use as grounds of appeal . ericsbrother - I'm not sure I understand the process then if I have been arguing with the wrong people. My understanding is that if you get a PCN you can challenge it, if it's rejected you then get an NTO, which you can challenge with representations. Once your representations are rejected only then can you go to the Tribunals service. Is that incorrect? This is the route I followed as per what was adv
  3. it looks like they've covered all those points, only some of the semantics are different (from instead of beginning). Am I correct in assuming I wouldn't be appealing the NTO anymore, which had the incorrect fine amount stated, now that they have re-offered the original reduced amount?
  4. Hi green_and_mean, Yes, after all the bits about the Parking Adjudicator, on the back of the letter it says:
  5. Hi ericsbrother, sorry for the confusion! The complete exchange so far is as follows: Original PCN issued on 30/10/2017 09:12 Challenge to PCN submitted online with confirmation received via E-Mail on 10/11/2017 03:37 Letter from council saying they won't cancel the PCN is dated 08/12/2017 (think we received it on 12/12) NTO Letter is dated 19/12/2017 Challenge to NTO with representations sent on 16/01/18 (this was the form included with the NTO) Notice of Rejection of Representations is dated 18/01/2018 (think we received it on 19/01/18). So the next step I understand is
  6. Michael Browne, ericsbrother & green_and_mean, thank you for your responses. Taking your advice I submitted my Representations against the NTO under the clauses: a) Procedural impropriety by the council b) The penalty exceeds the amount that applies in the circumstance. I included the original representations (as you suggested green_and_mean) I wrote in challenging the PCN under the clause: Other compelling reasons. I received the quickest turn-around I have ever had from the council, they must have written a response the very same day they read my represen
  7. Hi green_and_mean, Happy New Year to you! Thank you for the reply and advice, it seems there is consensus that I should challenge the NTO with the "higher than allowed amount" option. When you say to state the original grounds, what benefit is there to this? Or is it just as a matter of cataloguing what went before? Thank you!
  8. Happy New Year Michael Browne! Thank you for the response and apologies for the late follow up. From your message it sounds like you're saying that if the Council do re-offer the discount, I could choose to go to Adjudication anyway and if they rule in my favour the entire fine would be cancelled? Have I understood that correctly? If so, are there any past cases that show adjudication going in favour of the citizen over the Council or is it far likelier to go in the Council's favour. I'd obviously rather pay the discount if there's only a slim chance of winning at adjud
  9. Hi Michael Browne & ericsbrother, thanks for your super fast responses. To answer the questions: Original PCN issued on 30/10/2017 09:12 Challenge submitted online with confirmation received via E-Mail on 10/11/2017 03:37 Letter from council saying they won't cancel the PCN is dated 08/12/2017 (think we received it on 12/12) NTO Letter is dated 19/12/2017 Original contravention: 40 Parking in Disabled space without displaying a blue badge. Grounds for challenge: Other compelling reasons option 14 days from the date of their response to my challenge would be tomorro
  10. Hi all, I received a PCN from Harrow Council over a month ago. I challenged the PCN within 14 days (the period that you can pay a 50% reduced amount for early payment) using their online system. I received a letter about a month after my submission stating they had considered my submission but were still going to enforce the ticket. However, the letter states that I now have to pay the full amount as it is after the 14 day reduced period. R Today I received a Notice to Owner stating that I would need to pay the full amount. The PCN itself and the Harrow Council websit
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