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  1. My guess would be a few times, considering the confidence he had during the call and how he was able to sound like he was speaking to his manager. There was no background noise at the time either, I bet he was just calling me from his mobile at home! What a horrible person, no wonder he was so nice to me. He saw something in it for himself right from the start. I can only hope his position is maybe now questioned from the information they already have, and this will be followed up with a letter detailing his behaviour.
  2. I definitely will be informing them of everything that happened. I'm sure they'll take an interest in why such a lengthy conversation was needed after the event, for a start. This could help to back up the subsequent phone call, which I unfortunately have no proof of other than the record of a call from a withheld number yesterday. Anyhow, I'll give them the information and how they choose to deal with it is up to them as I doubt I'll ever find out. The guy at HO did confirm the security staff are sub-contractors also. I'll update the thread if I get any further hassle or if I need
  3. You're right and this is something I will do. I will detail the time of the discussion outside also so they can see how long it went on for since there was logically no reason for that discussion ever to have taken place. I suspect that RLP would still have written to me anyway even if I had paid this amount to the LP guy. I'm assuming it's his job to catch thieves but then ultimately up to Boots to pass the information on to either RLP and / or the police, however they're choosing to deal with it. I don't think this guy was looking to do me any favours by keeping RL
  4. I really am, everyone has spoken so much sense and not judged me at all. I never expected that, it's been brilliant to find a place with people who evidently have a lot of good advice to give. I'll be recommending it to anyone who's got any sort of legal issue, or any issue really, in the future! Other forums tend to have the odd one who'll make judgmental comments but not had that on here at all. I didn't find anything at all online about people who've been taken in by the police after initially being released so whilst it'll be a niggle with me for a while (and that's part
  5. I remember the exact time and date of when we were outside talking, as I had to check the time for my next train. The discussion we were having would have been made full view of the cameras outside the store and it went on for easily 15 minutes, possibly longer. There will be footage of me making a call on my phone to ask my gran to lend me some money, and footage of the LP guy making a call on his phone at the same time. Looking back, it seemed a very strange thing to take place immediately after catching someone shoplifting, and I'm sure questions would be asked about why he was talking to m
  6. It also made me wonder why, if they'd known I was stealing for months and knew I was a regular in the store and recognised me each time I was in there, why did they never just apprehend me once I was in there? If they had so much evidence of me taking previous items then I don't understand why they still had to wait to actually catch me in the act, if indeed that CCTV evidence was sufficient to prove my guilt. Essentially they knew I was stealing but allowed me to continue doing so until they could actually catch me with something. That is making me wonder if the police don't rely on sto
  7. And maybe they make more money going down the civil route than through the courts, since that may result in conviction but no compensation to the store. The LP guy made out like I was the worst shoplifter they had ever had in saying they'd had meetings about it and all sorts, but logically I can't imagine that happens. It feels to me like I'm the only one but obviously common sense tells me that a huge city store very likely has plenty of regular shoplifters to deal with and I can't imagine they would be putting the time in to have staff meetings about all these cases, otherwise they wou
  8. Now you mention it, the whole incident outside was very informal, now I look back on it. At the time I was in a state and not thinking properly but we were stood there for at least 15 minutes. Now, it was right outside one of the entrances to the store and cameras were all around so I don't think there were any of those intentions on his part, but what I do suspect now is that he kept me talking long enough to decide what kind of person I am and whether I'd be likely to part with some cash. Given that I spent some of the time in tears, I suspect he thought he could m
  9. I agree, and he seemed so confident and convincing when he was speaking to me that it's making me think I won't be the first person he has tried this with and I'm sure there will be others who've coughed up. The giveaway really was the bargaining he was doing, such as asking 'well how much can you pay?' when I said I couldn't pay the £700 upfront. And that it must be cash. It hardly seemed to be the way a large retail store would deal with a shoplifting case. Toby also completely believed I had received that call and said that if it were proven he had done that, it would b
  10. Just to update on this, I got a third party to call Boots HO about this and she spoke to a lovely man called Toby. He completely agreed that something didn't seem right and he advised the majority of shoplifting cases are dealt with as civil matters. He called through to the store manager today who advised the matter hasn't been reported to the police and there is no requirement to pay any 'fine' on Monday. Apparently she also spoke to the security guard who denied mentioning anything about a cash fine, he claimed he only called me to discuss the charges I would be g
  11. I get what you're saying and I know that in the majority of cases, if they haven't called the police at the time then they won't. But in my case I'm concerned they could still report it - they have my name and address and all the footage, all they've got to to do is report it and I'm sure the police would be interested in arresting me based on the amount of footage they've got. It would be an easy prosecution, I could imagine. I don't fall within the 'below £200' value which is what the law states is low-rate theft. The total amount is probably a grand or more and this sits in a
  12. It did come from a withheld number, but when I gave my number on the day I was caught (with a female staff member present also), he called me from the company mobile phone he was using to check I'd given him the right number and it rang as withheld then. So I'm guessing that's the phone he was calling from. He said other stuff like, like how they all had a meeting about it (the counter staff, his boss and security staff) to discuss my case and how they'd all been wanting to prosecute but eventually decided to let him make the decision. This also seems odd to me - why wo
  13. LP (loss prevention), he calls himself a Loss Prevention Officer which I'm guessing is a fancy word for security guard. I agree it sounds a bit off, I feel like they've got me in a catch 22 situation here because I know they've got plenty of CCTV footage. If they didn't, he wouldn't have been able to accurately describe various items I'd taken and when I did it. The guy said he would call me on Monday morning at 9am, presumably I'd be going to the Boots store, but he didn't specify. I agree it sounds like he might want this cash in his back pocket but to be honest, I don't care if
  14. I had a call from the LP who caught me today. He said his boss was really not happy that the police weren't being called and also wanted me arrested because the job I'm in 'must involve money' if I have to go through the kind of credit checking that I go through, which obviously is correct. He said his boss thought it should be reported to the police as I'm likely a risk in the job I'm in. I know I'm not, I've worked for the same company for 11 years and I don't even have direct access to cash, I'm in the back office. But it would NEVER occur to me to steal from m
  15. You could be right there, though I've never ever thought of myself as depressed, I'm always very jovial and happy but I've had a pretty rough year - lost a close friend suddenly last year after he got food poisoning, he was type 1 diabetic and slipped into a coma and died. He was only 25. Got suspended from work for a gross misconduct allegation (which was NOT a theft allegation, I will point out!), it was to do with breaching data protection but was all based on hearsay and nothing else. The allegations were dropped after a full investigation which found absolutely nothing, but it dragg
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