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About aydee2014

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  1. just rang and as i pleaded guilty with mitigating circumstances it is: £200 fine £60 court charge £20 for something else i missed £11.40 for the fare well done SWT !
  2. thanks! i still have not heard from the court... is this normal? it was not in today's post either. Can i ring up the court to find out? Thanks adnan
  3. thanks stigy, it said on the plea for me to fill in a means form but actually there was no form in the bunch of letters they sent me. I did write in my letter to the court that i am in real bad debt and am currently in a Debt Management Plan which sadly has 17 years to run ... i'm not sure if they will have any consideration, but in any case i won't be able to pay the fine if it is too high, it will just have to get added onto my debt plan i guess? i'm guessing it will be atleast £500 for a £3.70 fare (great justice system we have!)... who would i contact to discuss this once i find out the penalty?
  4. no worries, thanks for the reply... i pleaded guilty with mitigating circumstances, having re-read the statements the actual fare due was £3.70 as i was only in first class for one stop (confirmed in the witness statement) All this hassle for less than £4! how long do i have to wait to get the verdict from court? i presume they will send me a letter to my home address?
  5. thanks again rebel, looks like i should have done the doc note before ! but now my court case is less than 5 days away and they are refusing to speak to me even if i call them. what do you suggest given the circumstances now?
  6. yes i am in the process of getting the doctors letter, but the court case is early next week so i need to quickly decide how i will proceed. i did not mention that i cannot attend court in my letter. i really appreciate everyone's help here. i'm hoping the court will look favourably on my case as i have offered to pay 4 times now.
  7. i did indeed and offered up a note from the doctor as proof. But they came back to say due to the high level of passengers using first class services it is in the public interest to pursue this case to court. I have called the prosecution center offering payment and an out of court settlement for the fourth time, but they are unwilling to even discuss it! shocking! All over a £11 ticket they are taking me to court with the only charge being byelaw 19! After initially disagreeing with the RPO (i remained polite throughout as noted in the witness statement) i did on the day offer payment, and officially did so two times further in both my following letters. The courts will laugh at this case! How do you experts think i should proceed? Guilty with mitigating circumstances? Does anybody have any sample letters i can frame my response to the court with? I can't attend court on the day as i have no means to travel so far and will be forced to take time off work (i get paid by the hour) so it will be a double wammy for me.
  8. thanks rebel! I sent a very friendly letter offering to make payment plus admin costs along with an explanation of the detrimental effects on my career that a court case would have... but they are having none of it... court case set for next week... any advice?
  9. Thanks old-codJA... there wasn't anything more to the interaction, the revenue protection officer were very scruffy thug-looking individuals and i just felt very intimidated by the whole scenario, i added further explanation in my previous post. That is useful information about it not resulting in a conviction for a recordable offence, i guess i have nothing to lose.
  10. Hi all, first post here but i was looking for some expert advice please. A few months ago i was traveling with a standard ticket on a packed South West Trains (SWT), i managed to squeeze on to the overcrowded train and was jammed in the vesting area between first and standard class. I had recently had surgery on my knee and it had been it was in the first few days after i was off crutches. It was extremely difficult and uncomfortable to stand for a long period of time in a packed vesting area. After waiting 15 minutes in extreme discomfort the next stop arrived and some further passengers got onto the train. At this point I couldn't stand any longer so i went into the empty first class carriage to take a seat. Just my luck 5 minutes later, a Revenue Protection Officer literally bursts into the first class carriage and angrily demands to see my ID. I was initially in shock, it felt like i was being arrested for robbing a bank, such was the ferocity of the protection officers! I explained to them the situation but they were very stubborn and claimed i was breaking the law. I offered to pay for a first class ticket or go back into standard class they said they had to take a statement of the offense - they also stole my weekly travelcard which had a few days remaining. I had wrote to SWT with my mitigating circumstances but they have completely ignored my case and are arranging a court date. I have been accused of committing an offense contrary to the Railway Byelaws: Bylaw 19... "In that you did, without permission of an authorised persion, remain in a seat, berth or any part of a train where a notice indicates that it is reserved for a specified ticket holder or holders of tickets of a specific class" What options do i have? - frankly i can't afford a solicitor so i was thinking of attending court and pleading guilty with mitigating circumstances. I find it extremely disturbing that after having paying tens of thousands of pounds to SWT over the last decade, the one time i needed a seat i am being charged with a CRIMINAL RECORD! It's simply absurd, for what would have been a £11.70 ticket which i have offered to pay but has been rejected. I admit i was wrong by being in that carriage but it seems inhumane given i was not evading fares at all. There seems to be no appeal process now. so i would like to hear from people who have been through this on how i should proceed in court? Thanks!
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