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  1. My stance is that I would not have boarded the train, had I known the ticket price was so high. I did not accept the UFN and left both copies in possession of the Guard. I made an audio recording of this with the cafe/bar attendant as a witness to it. It is my view that I have not contracted with the train company as I did not have a ticket nor did I agree to a UFN. I gave my correct name and address as is requirement by law and asked the guard to send a bill for the service, which I intended to dispute. I now have received a letter telling me to pay the UFN, which in my eyes, is invalid. I don't have a UFN as I wouldn't accept it, I want to know if I have the right to do this. To negotiate the price of their service. My thinking was if I accepted the UNF then I accept the service fee. I do not accept the price offered to me for their service, around double what I had paid for the same train 10 minutes before that one. I even offered to get off at the next stop but there wasn't one. I am (and was then) happy to pay them a fair amount, which I deem to be the amount I payed for the last ticket, but it seems they have set the price after the fact. Again I would not have boarded the train had I have known the price of the ticket. I would have gotten the next Coach for £20. ---- if it came to court I would not accept that I had knowingly contracted, with anyone on any point of the journey. I pasted the barrier in Leeds on my old ticket, then in a state of panic boarded the next train as I had a job meeting to catch in London. I would stand by my right as a consumer to choose, I don't believe I got that opportunity. Is this becoming more clear? If the law is against me I will suck it up and pay, but if it doesn't say anywhere that I have to accept the UFN and that I have to accept any price offered, even though they had accepted my boarding without a ticket, I want to contest.
  2. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think I am well within my rights to reject the issue of the ticket? Can't find anything that addresses this happening
  3. Hi all, Does anyone know if it says anywhere that we are actually bound to accept an Unpaid Fare Notice when it is issued? I did not accept one and now have a letter through the post as if I did. DETAILS____ A month, or so, back I boarded a later train from Leeds to London after missing my train 10 mins before. The guard (forcefully) tried to hand me an Unpaid Fare Notice after it was clear I could not pay the inflated price for the service. I gave my proper details when asked and told the guard that I would not be accepting the UFN and that if they wanted to settle things they could send me a bill through the post - which I would then dispute. I did not accept the terms of the Notice and felt it had been misleadingly presented to me. origianal ticket was £69 --- UFN was £124. I would not have boarded the train had I known the price of the ticket + BTW the train was by no means full! I believe I have a case to argue but want to check that I was not obliged by law to accept the notice, there and then. I feel i'm in for the long haul with fighting this so want to start off well! Thanks in advance!
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