Thank you all,

Thank you Spaceman

Thank you both.

Can somebody post a link to where I can find the relevant legislation of who is responsible to pay Penalty Charge Notices issued by a Local Authority. To be more precise the schedule/paragraph that clearly state that a PCN is the responsibility of the RK even if the owner/keeper was not the driver at the time.

Since what you descibe is more or less what \i have I will make a point of switching to Ovo after my fixed rate with Extra is over

I fitted solar panels back in 2014, so most of my consumption during the daytime is free of charge, but still I purchase 12,000 Kw from my friendly electricity supplier. My household is a 24/7 estalishment, let me explain: I get up at around 2am, do about 3 hurs work using my computer then am out the house normally by 5am and get back around 2pm. Do some more work on the computer, cook my supper using a mixture of gas and electricity then I am in bed by 6pm at the latest, this happens 7 days a week. My wife gets up at 6am, leaves for work at 7am and isn't back home until 6:30/7pm, cooks her supper, mostly using electricity, around 8pm and goes to bed at around 11pm, Monday to Saturday. Because of this the heating is constantly on at 19°C, this is provided by an air source heat pump. I am off gas grid, and for years the central heating was done using propane, a jolly exensive exercise. I have calculated that more than 50% of my consumption from the grid is between dusk to dawn, more so in the winter months, when the central heating is working at it's hardest after sundown. If I set the heat pump to heat the water in the storage tank between midnight and 7am the night consumption will increase. There are other appliances that I can run after midnight, such as the dishwasher and the washing machine. Since the only appliances that is consuming electricity between 7am and 2pm is the heatpump, a couple of fridges and a chest freezer, I strongly believe that the energy produced by the panels is more than sufficient to cope. Hence the idea of economy 10, a couple of cheap hours between 3 and 5, a further 3 hours between 7 and 10 and 5 hours between 2am and 7am.

Hello folk, I called my electricity supplier (extra energy) to tell them I wanted to go onto an economy 7/10 tariff, they told me that they can't do it because it meant replacing my meter Am I being lead down the garden path?

The meter reading is short of 1500 Kw, but it was their estimate, as I received the notification I sent them the proper meter reading but they haven't update the bill, which was in their interest! As far as moving from Extra Energy to British Gas, unless somebody was really upset with EE, it's a crazy move, my yearly spend with EE is about £1,100.00, the cheapest tariff with BG would see me fork out close to £1,500.00

Email with subject line: FORMAL COMPLAINT sent to both CEOs, letters just being drafted and will be in the post by lunchtime, never heard anything from BG.

It's my house and I lived here for the past 28 years

I have spoken to nobody about switching supplier, although I did do a price comparison using the one at Which? I have not given my precise address, just the postcode, and since I prefer to pay via monthly direct debit I have not given details of my bank account, as if I would on line like!

Would an email do or should I send a snail mail (recorded delivery of course) or both?

Hello folk, On the 22nd of August I received an email from extra energy sending me my "final" electricity bill, which included a £25 fee for exiting the tariff before it expired. I called Extra Energy and they told me that my supply had been taken over by British Gas and that I should speak to them about it. The operator at Extra Energy wasn't very helpful although I did tell him that I did not want to change supplier. Reality is I would not be a BG customer even if they were the cheapest in the market, I had a very bad experience with them in the 90s and there is no way I would ever consider them again. Since I did not ask to be supplied by British gas, not even knowing what tariff I am on, as I have not yet received any correspondence form them, would I be in my rights not to pay their bill if they sent me one? Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to have free electricity, in fact I have opened a separate savings account and instructed my bank to transfer £70.00 every month to it, just in case I get a nasty surprise. With Extra Energy my tariff was Bright fixed price January 2017, which is less expensive than BG standard, so if I do get a bill from BG can I recalculate the figures using EE's rates? Last but not least, can I sue BG for taking over the suplly without my say so? Thank you in advance for any advice.

An Enforcement Agency and their Agents can only go by the information that is supplied by the Client, it is in no one's interest not to be able to go to the right place with the right information. Sometimes Enforcement Agents are blamed for the mistakes made by who instructed them. In excess of 75% of warrants issued are returned to the clients because the debtor doesn't reside at the address provided, this is found only after sending out the Compliance letter or after a visit is made by the Agent. Assuming that the debtor never received any previous correspondence from either Court or Enforcement Agency (about 7 letters all together), that person will be surprised at a visit from an Enforcement Agent, however, it has always been the case that the original of the warrant is at Court, and the debtor has to address the Court to receive a copy. The Enforcement Agent should and does carry a copy of the Enforcement Details, which give the following information: 1) Name of debtor, their DOB (if known by the Court), NI n° (if known by the Court) a telephone number (if known by the Court) 2) Address of debtor, as last known by the Court. 3) Date of issue of the warrant and reason for the issue (i.e. unpaid fine imposed on dd/mm/yyyy for X offence). 4) Amount outstanding, including any fees accrued. When the EA is happy he is speaking to the debtor item 3 must be disclosed to him/her as soon as practical, followed by 4, This is a legal requirement An EA would have no place in the business if he went to an address which was different from the one on the Enforcement details, what would be the point any how?

I can understand the way that you feel, but let's not forget that prior to the new legislation there were a miriad of different fees, how much to charge on visit one, two or three, attendance to remove, van fees, walk in possession fees, fees for stepping on the cat's tail etc. The whole affair was very confusing for every one: the public, the bailiffs and the Courts who are supposed to make sure the correct fee is charged at the right time. Let's not forget that at the time the Attendance fee for Magistrate Distress warrants was £225.00. The new system is simple to understand, if a warrant (distress or execution) goes to enforcement a fee of £235.00 is added to the balance, no more, no less; it remains the same until the warrant is satisfied one way or the other and it doesn't matter how many times an Agent attends a property, once or ten time, the cost is the same. If you think that an EA just delivers a letter and has no intention of seizing good you are quite mistaken. When an EA attends a property it is to Take Control of goods because the debtor has not paid or hasn't made contact with the agency within 7 working days of the Compliance letter being sent out to them. If the debtor, after negotiating with the EA, then decides to pay rather than have their goods removed that's a step in the right direction which save a lot of time and hassle to all involved. The legislation, as well as the compliance letter, is also very clear in stating that once the debtor is informed that there is a Warrant of Control issued with his/her name on it, all their possession are automatically under Court Control. The legislation permits the adding of the Enforcement Fee after the 7 day period (which effectively is 10 calendar days), but the vast majority of Agencies will only add said fee when it's allocated to an Agent. And for TMA warrants it's only applied when the visit is made and recorded. I do not think that £235.00 is excessive considering the amount of work involved even before a visit is made. What I find disturbing is the number of debtors who ignore the Compliance letter then complain about a bailiff visit.