The back-shift has three workers (1 supervisor) reduced to two workers (1 supervisor) - the supervisor is remaining in his role. The role on backshift has a reduction in hours and one member is happy to change and the other member has been transfered too a seperate depot within the original company. Nightshift we have three workers reduced to two (one part-time) this is me and two others - both of which have taken on different roles in the original company.

Thanks for the reply Emmzzi much appreciated Is there not a correct time frame for a transfer to take place - like 90 days or something? This seems very rushed through and with a distinct lack of leadership. Thanks

Hello, I am a first time user of the site and I have been looking for answers to my problem. If you do read this thread I thank you in advance for taking time to do so. I also apologise as my spelling and grammer isn't the best and my memory on specific words and probably important information is hazy at best. My situation at the moment is: - I currently work for company ABC as a Driver / LBO (Loading Bay Operative), I work a constant night shift and have done so since starting in February 2007. Our work consists of collecting, sorting and delivering internal mail for a large customer. Although not hard the job is basically one that takes time to master, knowing what goes where.....etc (if they could train monkeys to read we'd be redundant by now!) The work is based over two shifts - back shift 15:30 - 00:00 and night shift 00:00 - 08:30. The staff are one supervisor on the back shift with two LBO's and on night shift we have three LBO's (two of which are LBO/Drivers - of which I am one). On May 31st we where called into a meeting at midnight (start of our shift - end of back shifts) to say that the company are following a model set out over the country (ABC is an Internationally recognised company) and the internal mail was being outsourced to company XXX. Our contracts where to be TUPE'd over although they didn't need all the staff to go over. As a result the way the operation was to be run was 1 supervisor (15:30 - 00:00) and 1 LBO (16:00 - 22:00) on back shift and one LBO (03:00 - 09:00) and one LBO/Driver (03:00 - 11:00 - 30 min break unpaid); basically reducing the staff by two and the other jobs having hours cut. The way the work was going meant a change like this was inevitable although I still think personally the new structure may not work due to the nature of the work and the lack of employees to cover sickness and holidays etc. Our leaflet that the powers that be read to us stated that ABC would offer alternative vacencies to all staff who didn't wish to change over. The changeover was going to take place on June 29th (today!) The following Tuesday we where asked if we had any ideas for what we wished to do. I stated quite clearly that I needed night-shift due to family issues (childcare, partners work, etc) and 3am til 11am really didn't suit as it would cost me 1 hour childcare a day plus a reduction in five hours of my pay made it financially not really an option. Both my collegues stated that they did not wish to TUPE over either only because they didn't want to work for company XXX (who I may add are in charge of the self-employed drivers who cover the various deliveries) The back-shift have it worked out at this stage, all parties are happy to make the change. Only two vacencies for comapny ABC, however after a bit of change they work out they have three - one back-shift and two night-shift (02-00 - 09:30) however due to a process they do have to interview for the vacancies. Cue massive hold up for three weeks............... ..............................during the three weeks the due diligence is taking place, there is disasters over sending our contracts for the solicitors to look through, loads of excuses and a delay in the transfer until July 13th. During the past week, after repeatedly being told not to worry, it'll be ok, we have our interviews - Thursday, as I say it seems quite informal I'm relaxed and happy to answer the questions put to me. The people interviewing are taking phone-calls during the interview and twice the room is interupted by people coming in. I was first in, my collegues went after. Thursday I am offered a back-shift, impossible for me to do and my two collegues get the night-shifts (although both stated they could, if needed, do back-shiftfs). This leaves me pretty ***ked (apologies) but I think my best alternative at the moment is to take the transfer. However the company XXX are pretty small time - two knucklehead owners - who I don't think have any nous or reasoning in them for me to explain my situatuion. But basically I can say it here I want out and am doing my best to find alternative employment. Although we still have not heard from them I've heard that XXX are looking to pay around £7.00 an hour (standard for this type of work I know) but I am paid £10.79 an hour currently and don't know where I stand due to the complexities of the situation. My contract DOES NOT state any hours of employment. I have asked for a copy of my contract too which has not arrived either. So I am basically resigning from ABC if I refuse the job on back-shift???? I hope I've covered enough to give you some idea of my predicament, I thank you again if you've made it this far. If I need to supply any further info or anything for someone to assist me let me know. Regards and thanks, BriR