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  1. Thanks for the advice ladies, one of the things i wanted to do was see in black and white how these issues read and to be honest set out as i did yesterday they read as petty and common place. I've put up with this for 3 years now and i honestly feel most people would have lost the plot or their rag before now Just to answer your queries in no particular order 1. I am not looking for another job, i love what i do and there isn't much out there in the civil service at the moment other than cutbacks and redundancies, i also like working for the employer. If something did come up with the same pay i was interested in i would seriously consider it. 2. I tell myself over and over it isn't my business, i'm no longer a manager and such but it is my business because when they avoid work someone else picks it up, quite often that is me so my issue is not that they do as they please but that i inherit the work they avoid. 3. Crazy is not the word emmzi To condense into three area's for my boss (i have already done this and taken it to him in black and white) a) expected to undertake all workload as my colleges and run a high maintenance IT system and user support as well b) I have evidenced to him that any assessment of users we do which is at least 1/2 day for each, I have done more than anyone else and CW1+2 are around 6 for the year (last 12mths) me 26 c) we provide onsite instruction to other departments and users usually lasting 2-4 hrs a package, sometimes these must be written from scratch or are tweaked to each department i did 50% of all packages over a 100 in total, closest co worker to me was in the 40's and CW2+3 mid 20's, when CW 1+2 do this they always book 1/2 day out setting up, many times i get about 10 minutes due to everything else i'm doing. d) sneaking a 4th in here, dealt with 50% of all calls coming in (can't prove this without phone logs which managers can access but i know this is the case) I did mention the office frivolities and how distracting and annoying they are they are but didn't put too much into this as it would be seen as petty but i can say with my hand on my heart emmzi you could not work in this environment, it's not about me wanting to socialise it's about trying to deliver a workload much in excess of my workmates while putting up with farmyard noises over and over, constant crying and attention seeking, sheer bone idleness and much more. Reading back again and pondering you are right, what do you do when the channels to use you don't want to. i think i'm going to have to simply become a right pain in the rear and start sticking saying no, it's not that i have to much work to complete in my hours, i can do it, the rub is doing double the work of these three people for less pay. I don't want to be hated by my workmates which will be the outcome but this is only what they deserve and i am able to show clearly it is a lack of management. What is driving me insane the most is every day i care a little less about the job i do because of the lack of management in my team, If you can;t beat them join them and all that guff. Oh well i didn't think there would be another answer to this but it was worth asking and setting out in writing thanks
  2. apologies for spelling and grammer i can't seem to edit the title for starters and I'm tired, oh so tired I'm posting here for some advice not of the norm as i know procedures and what actions people are normally advised to take, I could actually sort out my issues simply by raising a grievance or taking my issues outside of my department but this would mean going head to head with my boss and fighting it out and i know with the issues and evidence i can put forward (people from other departments are also aware to enough of extent that i would be taken seriously) i would have many things sorted but it would leave a large mess behind it with relationships and life is too short to work in a constantly hostile environment I actually like my boss very much as a person and due to being involved in work issues and conflicts in the past i really can't go back to conflict as the person it makes me i do not like or want to return. It's not the fear of conflict that is my issue but the fact i'm actually quite good at it. It's the main reason i took this job as i love the work, it's just the people i work with! I honestly feel like if i raised these through the appropriate channels there would be major changes where i work possibly people leaving (civil service don;t really do dismissals unless you have got a smoking gun or the boss hates yu and you have nothing on them) and although i know i'm not a paragon of virtue i think there is no way these are my perceptions through paranoia or an overwhelming sense of my own importance. To set out in brief so you can see some meat on the bone.(sorry it's a big bone) For info i work in the civil service so rules and practices are different from the private sector, unfortunately you will see some clear stereotypes coming up Boss Works 60% of the hours they should, in late, home early pretty much every day. This is known by their boss of the same ilk but not by higher level bosses. Delegates every piece of work that comes his way, if you want advice on an issue or the wording of an email which may be legally contentious he's gazing around after the first sentence with a simple "yep that's fine on many occasions without reading it" If you need him to get involved in an unresolved issue as our procedure means we should escalate to him first he simply does nothing, i have emails for sending waiting for his ok/input that where if things went wrong would involve legal action potentially against my service. When it's contentious and it involves forcing other managers to deal with issues he simply uses the long grass technique,if another department is not fulfilling their responsibilities and it's stopping me he does nothing. As the job i do is supporting vulnerable people if i had hair left i'd be pulling it out as i'm only ensuring our legal obligations are fulfilled (put those comments around whistles away folks, i know and they are not really that high level as in immediate risk of life and limb) My frustration is i feel like just going ahead and sorting these issues out without involving him, that then leaves me open to breach of procedure internally and would force me to get into why and take him on as once the door is opened outside my office i can only see things escalating. Anyhow, that's my boss, nice fellow that he is I'll probably say this again but i've spoken to him 4 times now twice in formal supervisions raising most of the work balance concerns i'm going to list, nothing has been done at all even through no argument or challenge to what i raised although he did say he's worked out that nobody in our office is working above 55% capacity (don't ask me where he pulled it from as when i produced all our logging sheets mentioned below he didn't even know where they were or what was on them) My Colleagues.:- Co worker 1 (CW1) One works from home 1-2 days a week, nobody else knows on what and on many occasions this means after lunch other days she's out the office and gone home from there in addition to the set home days. In some ways it's not my business what she does or if she is allowed to do this, not only do i not need to nor do i want to, couldn't cope trying to work in a house full of kids, what grates me is i know for a fact she isn't working, i do note when she's not in one of the other women (who i will come to last) spends most of the afternoon on the phone to her or texting her ****ing about How do you know these "facts" you ask? well first hearsay "ok lets move on to the next then" every home work item used to be listed as setting up for for x,y,z when this was raised a while ago due to the rest of our team doing the same and setting up for this work in much much less time the home time logging was changed simply to the words "home" bottom line manager was aware and did nothing bar lip service when a great big picture was painted in front of him. All our work is logged only because by pushing the issue and creating the log sheets for reporting purposes to departments myself people now have to list what core work they are doing (i knew i'd need proper evidence in the long run) Much comes in via phone in the office, whoever is in gets what's on the end of the call most of the time this can be 2-30 mins of advice or days of work depending on the issue. She sits nearly at the bottom of all recorded work for everything we do and as at least 50% is out of office so she is never in to deal with the phone either, the phone in my office is an issue of loathing for me, i detest how the people i work with sit and wait for someone else to answer it if it's the main line in as our admin works few hours it;'s often on group pickup. I've seen them get up and walk away when theirs rings expecting someone else to answer (i have learned to wait myself but it does rile me still and it tends to be another worker who is the main culprit) We are set hours for each work piece we get the which users never come close to using apart from with her as when you add the log time up it's 4-5 the allowed maximum when adding the home set-up times she logs against Anyhow that's co-worker one, co worker two senior officer (CW2), returned after absence at the start of the year, nothing on any logs as she hasn't done any of the core work which is the same as before her absence, often off for child related reasons (not complaining this is a good thing for employees and mothers but i'm glad my kids were not ill so often) the only positive is the boss tends to delegate to her at first so it's not all her fault, she is new to management and has picked up this trick very quickly so it then gets bumped to us or should i say us with the exception of CW1. As far as i know works my hours but appears to have a different clock from me as my hours mean i'm there 2 hours after her to complete them, I did once mention in passing very carefully about if she was on reduced hours (doesn't come in at least 1 day a week) and got a very aggressive defensive response. I inherited her major work IT support package which for most of the people i work with would be an all day every day job, i'm expected to do this and the same as the rest and more. Since her return she has logged in twice in 5 months. I have to take all support calls 50% of all our calls and if i'm out they jts take a message for me to ring therm back, everyone is supposed to deal with it Co-worker 3 once had this work as i set it up and was then removed without reason but she made so many cockups and complaints from users i was given it back on top of my work she was left with a big gap in workload which comes into my next workmate rant, the senior is now reviewing the system and policy for users she knows little about and has not even discussed anything with me but chooses to discuss with Co-W1 who knows nothing about it. They also did this on introduction of the system going off to get another qualification 5 days in 4 star hotel to move them closer to being able to work for themselves (many people who do my job are consultants) and then dumping the work on me, Me nothingm why would i need this to run they system they have the accreditation to use I have recently found out that she is now reviewing a major piece of work that took me months and is actually completed which i did on my own again on top of my normal work which concerns 100's of staff and i sorted as it had been ignored for half a decade (shall i not mention it's an annual legal obligation), i've had senior managers more than happy with my outcome ringing me asking why they are involved (they have not even heard of CW1 as work in this high maintenance area isn't something she fancies and has this choice) and this is how i found out about their involvement, i forgot by them it's CW1+2 now out of the office for the rest of the week to review this, again not even told about this. The blatant lack of involvement or discussion isn't something that can be broached with her as a normal discussion she has isolated herself with CW1 Nothing is ever discussed with us and if i actually explained what i do many of you would know how bad this is due to the legalities around my job Finally saved for last Co - worker Worker 3 The days she is off/not in are a joy for all, everything is a drama, there are tears at least once a week with her constant personal problems she brings on herself by affairs and it's on it's off, spends many a day on personal calls NEVER ANSWERS THE BLOODY PHONE for work, if she isn't ringing family it's CW1, can't do anything without asking 100 times "what should i do here" She laughs giggles and shreeks at shouting levels, messes about (describing would identify her easily if for some reason one of them stumbled here) makes stupid noises when CW1 is in while myself and the other co worker not mentioned here are trying to work because she has not got any to do tags along with CW1 (doubling up on work seems only available to the women in our office but please don't take it as sexist, it's just the demographics where i work) spends ages in rooms with CW1 or 2 discussing personal issues after another bout of tears. They have been pulled on this both CW1+3 but as with everything boss in useless, the other co-worker once snapped at her and ended up in trouble for it and this is what worries me as i can see it coming myself. She takes 4 times a long to do anything and is generally bone idle and incompetent This was supposed to be short query, sorry folks i feel like i'm about to get 10 posts saying "thanks for sharing" I know this is one side of the story and i'm not really too bothered i'm paid less for the same work (and much more extra work) where i am qualifications set pay and they have more, i could reduce my "responsibilities" to my grade but i like what i do and i like working hard and serving the people i look after (the public) If you take what i wrote at face value i'm sure you would all say formal grievance, i know this, you may say just tell them to sod off, i know this The question here is how do i resolve any of this without using the appropriate and formal route and subsequently kill the daily atmosphere in a small office i have to live in 39 hrs a week. I know many senior people across my area of civil service due to a longish career and old jobs and if i laid this out to any of them they would look at me as if i was a different person than the one the knew as i'm known for not only never being a doormat but not putting up with stuff like this How do i either block out both the indolence and petty crap in the office because this is what most of the above is (over time and totting petty stuff up feels like death by a thousand needles to me) or keep my sanity When i've decided no grievances, no taking it above my department, no simply telling my workmates they can &*&*&*&* how can this be resolved Is the only answer choose one or put up and shut up ! I have managed many more people than this myself in the past and can see how bad the place is managed, bottom line the boss is the one responsible for all of the above meaning it would need to be him to take on if it did go formal, I don't want to do this not for any fear of reprisals, not due to lack of know how but because i do hate confrontation these days in work, i'm a candle with no wick and want to stay that way
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