Hello again, ...and the story continues. I have written a polite letter to the Council asking to reconsider the PCN charge and received a reply stating ' the word bay was used in a generic paragraph but does not detract from the rejection sent. I am willing to extend the period of time in which to pay until 29/02/2012 ' etc etc . I am still of the same opinion and even more determined as I do not accept that their excuse is that the word bay was used in a generic way! What do you think? Thank you in advance and Happy Christmas Holidays to everyone. Regards

Hello Sailor Sam, I have indeed read the legend under the sign after it was posted by green and mean, but my point is, do really people know all the different signs and their meaning? This is the very first time I have seen a resident parking with no bay and as the letter from the council stated, ' the vehicle was booked for being parked without displaying a valid Permit in a Parking Bay'...what bay? It seems to me that even the Parking Appeals Officer dealing with my case doesn't have her mind clear. I have been paying for a permit in the same borough but different CPN and I have never seen such a nonsense.

Yes...the sign!

Thank you Jamberson. Would you assume the appeal will be refused?

Hello Jamberson, I am concerned they will charge me the full £80 if they don't cancel the PCN. I could take a risk and try to send them a polite appeal letter as you suggested. Thank you again.

Hello, Thank you all for your reply. @Jamberson: Yes, that's the one! How can people know all different rules the councils make up? As far as I have always known, parking areas are always marked one way or another. Is this to confuse drivers and make more money perhaps? It was very much a genuine mistake on my part (actually not just mine, being that my partner didn't notice either!) and as you can see, I pay for a permit in the same borough. Do you think it is worth making an appeal? Thank you so much again. Elisabetta

Hello Zamzara, Thank you for your reply and for the link. There are absolutely no markings on the road and no other signs. In fact, the reason why I parked there is that I have done so for a number of years and it didn't look any different, apart from the sign at the entrance of the road. Also, I have looked on numerous sites providing details of the many different signs on poles and none of them looked worded as the one on that road! I wonder whether perhaps that is also illegal being a pretty long road. Elisabetta

Hello Zamzara, Thank you for your reply and for the link. There are absolutely no markings on the road and no other signs. In fact, the reason why I parked there is that I have done so for a number of years and it didn't look any different, apart from the sign at the entrance of the road. Also, I have looked on numerous sites providing details of the many different signs on poles and none of them looked worded as the one on that road! I wonder whether perhaps that is also illegal being a pretty long road. Elisabetta

Hi dx, Sorry, the site doesn't allow me to post a link because I have not had enough posts (min 10 requirement). The address is Summit Road, London, E17 I hope this is enough. Thanks.

Hi, it says Traffic Management Act 2004 followed by PCN. Thanks.

Hello, I have parked my car on a road without parking bay markings only to find on my return a PCN on my windscreen. I have noticed then a sign at the entrance of the road stating " Permit holders SB, parking only past this point Mon-Sat 8am-6.30pm" . There are no other signs along the road and the sign has only been put there recently (about a week or so prior to the PCN). There is only a double yellow line on the first 2-3 meters but apart from that, no other markings. I have contested the PCN but they have not cancelled it stating on their letter " According to the Civil Enforcement Officers notes the vehicle was booked for being parked without displaying a valid Permit in a Permit Parking Bay" . There was no bay! Please advise. Thank you.