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  1. I have waited for the letter and sent my grovel one, i think they dont even read it they just send a standard reply thats all they do. Thanks anyway though
  2. Hello, I am just wondering what is the likely outcome for a max fine or prison sentence? I am a law abiding citizen and a respectable person. I have to go to court for 1 bus offence and most probably for another, however I do feel in these I was treated badly as i had money on my card, tapped it and thought nothing of it, and sat down, obviously not knowing it did not go through, when i got caught the guys were very rude and wouldnt let me tap it again so now i have to go to court. Most of the revenue people are actually very nice on route 29, they talk and you can have a laugh with them, however some are completely rude and horrible people. The guys that got me were very very rude and arrogant, and wouldnt let me tap it even though i had money on my card, and all the other ones i spoke said that they would let me tap it. Anyway, my question is, what do you think would be the likely outcome? I am very VERY worried and upset, because i see everyone in the riots is getting in prison for long times for very small things, and they might be feeling harsh. I am a nice, respectable person, and try my best to be kind. Do you think they will send me to prison or fine me alot of money??even if it was twice?? I am a student and barely have enough money my self, my dad does not work because he is in hospital for stress related illness and my mum has to provide for 3 children who are at university, so you can imagine it is very expensive. PLEASE HELP I AM SO STRESSED AND UPSET AND WORRIED THANKS
  3. ok thanks, can i reclaim the charged even if it was 3 years ago? what if the lady cant remember/denies it/isnt working there or the bank denies it? and how do i go about doing it?
  4. it says ot x, i am not sure what that means though. I rung the hrmc lady and she said for some reason i got put onto jobseekers even though they did not send any money, so maybe that is why? what should my tax code be?
  5. Hello, i have just recently got a new part time job, i am working at a restaraunt and i haven't been working since december last year as i have been at university studying. I have been getting taxed quite a lot of money and need this to be sorted and need help please, i do not have a clue what they are telling me or what i have to do?! I am a student and i heard that students do not get taxed? but the hrmc lady told me they do if they earn over 144 pounds per week or they do get taxed? please help! also i think it is because i have the wrong tax code? i rung them up and the lady said somehow i was on jobseekers, even though i had never applied for it at all (as i had a student loan) but the jobseekers never paid me any money! I honestly do not have a clue at all what to do! she said ring jobseekers and get them to send a letter or something about the allowance not being paid to me? Please somebody help me, i am so confused! how can i get my tax code changed to one where i do not get charged so much? do students pay tax? how do i get my tax back?
  6. Ok, this is quite weird. I opened a new natwest account in harrow about 3 years ago at their branch, i asked for an account with an overdraft that would not change and increase if i hit the limit (a student one) and got the overdraft of 250 pounds and took it all out , as i needed it badly. The lady who served me said it would not increase. I was 18 at the time and had no clue about cards or anything, but infact she had given me a gold card account (?) which increased the value and limit by 60 a month. As i was awya for 3 months it increased by 180 pounds! I paid that back but is there anyway to claim it back ,even 3 years later?
  7. Nope, i have not had a previous before. I am referring to the penalty notice and the 1 i have to go to court for, and the other one that happened where i had money on my card and he wouldnt let me tap it! Isn't 3 times persistant (even if it wasn't my fault and intention to do this)? Will they send me down? I am going into my 3rd year at university aswell! I am really worried about this!
  8. thanks! can people please help! I am very nervous about it! is 2 times getting caught persistent offending?
  9. Nope, tfl or whoever employ him do, i said it out of spite, then apologized straight away.
  10. yeah my post relates to my other one. and isnt 2 persistent offending? thats the thing, they can be quite harsh and i know for sure the tfl inspecters are very harsh (a bit too much in my opinion) basically the jist of the 2 offences where the same, beeped my card but it was in my wallet, could not get to the beeper as the bus was busy so stuck my arm out, many people were beeping so heard a lot of noises. Both times i had offered to pay for the ticket and tap my card again but they refused. I think they might put me to prison as this is the 2nd time it has happened, plus i had to pay a 25 pound fine once before, so 3 really,. thing is i am not a cirminal or a repeat offender, it was human error, and everybody makes these. i pay for the bus always when i get on and make sure i do!
  11. hello, i am just wondering what is the better/cheaper option? I have 1 court appearance about a bus fine, the lady from tfl emailed me and said i could settle it out of court which woud have been an on the spot 250 pound payment, which me or my family could not afford, or if i go to court and am found guilty she said it could be cheaper if i can prove i dont have enough income and money, which i can do easily. at the moment i am a student, have a 1250 pound overdraft on my card i had to take out for my rent, and have a job that just about covers rent and phone and transport. what will the likely cost be in court and how do they work it out? will it be more or less? also i heard their can be a prison sentence, as i have another 1 most probably coming up will that happen? the 2nd one was not my fault, as i could not get to the beeper in time as the bus was bus and had 2 pounds on my card, went 1 stop |(15 seconds) and the guy hauled me off even though i said i will tap it? will they consider a prison sentance? or another fine? there is no way i can afford it! i think it is quite harsh they fine people ridiculous amounts of money, especialy when on both times i said i will tap my card there and then to proove i had the money on the card! please help!
  12. What do you think will happen? i know some one that got sent to prison in the riots for stealing 2 beers they got sent for 18 months! the judges are going to be harsh! im not a criminal though, i have never been in trouble before. i moved to london not long ago, do not like travelling on the tubes and i found these buses confusing at first when i first moved to london ( i though a ticket person comes to take money when you are on the bendy buses, and never had an oyster card before!!!). i really cannot afford to pay much of a fine, as my student loan and job will cover my rent, phone, travel, and cannot borrow money off of my parents. but the thing is they will see it happened twice and they are quite harsh sometimes the judges i think!!! i honesty feel that i should have been able to tap my card on the 2nd time because i have money it was hard to see and reach the beeper and the guy would not let me, i think they are quite mean some of these people that do the ticket inspections, but obviously that is their job and they might be instructed to take a no prisoner attitude. i just hope that the judge will see my side of the story, that it was a human error and everybody makes these and i did not intend to travel without paying!!! i honestly hopes he sees this. i think the first one might be bad because the guy put in the statement i said 'this is pathetic i pay your wages', i did say that but took it back it was in the heat of the moment and i even said to him no i do not pay your wages, which funnily he did not write down. I am just very scared about going to prison i am in my last year at university, and i really cannot afford to pay alot of money. i did not intend to do this, i even offered to pay there and then and tap my card. what do you guys think will happen? has anyone had any experiance? sorry i am just very worried
  13. It turns out for 1 of the times I have to go to court now, and probebly for the other time a well. I am just wondering what are likelihoods that people go to prison for this, especialy for 2 fines? what are the other alternatives? i really cannot afford to pay alot of money, is there any way to let them know this? I am not a criminal or a bad person, i work but i only have a part time job and get 113 pounds a week, which goes fully on my rent and phone bill and travel. I am a student living away from home in London, which as you can imagine is very expensive. I just about have enough money for rent, transport and food let alone other things. The basic details are on the 1st time, i thought i had topped my card up online, but the laptop battrey died, and i did not know that you had to activate it at a tube station anyway so it would not have gone on my card to start. The bus was packed (it was a bendy) and as i am quite short it took me a while to get to the oyster card beeper. I tapped it whilst in my wallet but i could not see as the people were in the way. The doors were shut and as it went 1 stop the guy came on, said i had no money and took my details down, he was threatening about it and was a very big guy (tattoos, shaven head, earrings) as you can imagine i was quite intimidated. The 2nd time i did have money on my card, tapped it when it was on my wallet but what i didnt know is that it did not register, the bus was busy again (it does get busy on that bus) and i was on the phone to my mother who was upset, as my dad had lost his business (which means i cannot loan any money off himto help with my living costs) so i sat down. The people said i had no money, there was 6 of them, all big guys (seems like they employ big guys). This time i said i had money and he saw that, and i said i would tap it for the journey, he said no and i pleaded (as i was going through hard times personally and at home), and he just kept saying no. i was standing by the door and he got closer to me so i nearly fell off the bus. i was quite upset and angry as i did not undertsand why i couldnt tap it on then and just travel onwards. The 1st time i did offer to pay at the door for a ticket, and then he refused that aswell. I think this is unfair as i did not intend to do this on the bus, it was an honest mistake. I am very scared and nervous about going to court, my dad has been very mentally unstable and depressed since my grandad died and is currently in hospital, and i have not even told him, as i feel it might send him over. He does not work anymore and my mum does but she has to essentially provide for 4 kids now,. Please someone help! What are the chances they will send me to prison? What is the fine going to be for this? Has anyone been to court before? Do they take into account personal finances? I have proof of all this! Is there a community service option? I m very worried and nervous about this! Help please!
  14. also i have literelly no money to my name, cannot borrow any of my parents as my mum is supports 4 children, 3 of which who go to university! The only money i get is basically for my rent and i honestly cannot afford any more expenses, and my dad certainly cant deal with the stress. is there an option to do some form of unpaid work to pay back the fine or something? what are the options for everything?
  15. Hello, I am new to this forum and joined today.I have a bad situation at the moment. his is quite a long one but sorry. I normally cycle into central from wood green to uni and back but if it rains i get the long, bendy bus 29. I am new to London so was not too familier with how transport and oysters work. I got on the bendy bus once about a month ago, was on the phone at the same time and put my wallet onto the card machine which had my card in, not paying too much attention to what was happening. I heard a few beeps but it was because it was other people doing it aswell. 1 stop later the icket man came and checked my card, and i had 40 p less then the price. he was quite rude to me and took my details and stuff away. i then said i will go back to the tube station, which was 20 seconds away and out money on to cover the cost, and someone can even come with me and do it. this happend before and somebody let me do it, but he did not, and then sent a letter which means i have to go to court. Since then i have always put enough money to travel on, but today it happened again! I had 2 pounds on my card, and went onto the bus. I was on the phone, but this time it was a serious conversation to my mum (who i dont live with, i am a student). The conversation was about my father who was hospitalised 2 days before so i really was not paying attention to anything else, the bus was very busy and i stretched out to hit my wallet on the card reader but again heard more then 4 beeps, as other people were doing it too and i was not looking, due to the fact i had to stretch my arm out and i am quite short so could not see as the bus was very crowded. I continued on the journey, and got stopped by a ticket man at Warren Street. He said I had not used my card since augest 1st (as i have been away and normally cycle that is true). I said i had money and he took my card, then asked for i.d (which in hindsight i should not have given). I kept saying i will tap my oyster card there and then but he refused to let me. I know for a fact that other inspecters have let other people do it and seen it happen. I kept saying ill do it, at which point he got right into my face and i nearly fell out of the doors! Anyway, i dont know whats happening with that but i assume ill get another letter and have to go to court, either 2 seperate times or once for both. Both of these were a geniune mistake which i asked to rectify straight there and then, which got refused. What happens now? I am a student, with no job (as i am quite dyslexic and it takes me a while to go about things) and a father who has just lost his business and is now in hospital for a suicide attempt and mental illness and paranoia, and my student loan just about covers my rent. I refused to do a out of court settlement for the 1st because they said its 250 pounds you have to pay straight away and i cannot afford it. A lady from tfl emailed me saying about how the costs wi be reduced and the fine will too if i show financia proof which i can do. Can i please get some answers from anyone who has been in the same situation or somebody on here who knows there stuff, Its stressing me out so much. Also do these ticket people work on commish? And why can we not touch the card on if we had made a mistake and have got money but it hasnt registrered? Regards, BF
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