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  1. Greetings, I got caught by this infamous camera in the quiet time between Christmas and New Year. Using information from this thread I contested the PCN on various grounds. In the response from TfL I had several standard paragraphs about the alleged offence, the reasons for bus lanes, blah, blah blah. Then I was advised that the PCN was cancelled as a gesture of goodwill. They did not answer any of my points so perhaps there were too many grounds to defend a formal appeal. Grateful thanks to Bernie_the_Bolt, Londonmotorist101and all other contributors to this thread. I was using what was written here when I noticed the detailed reply to bristolhomer so I changed tack slightly. Here are a few observations: Don't use the developed standard format as it seems someone at TfLhas had time to write a comprehensive reply, but this gives the opportunity to raise more questions as I will describe here and in a later post. The first four bullet points in Londonmotorist101's letter are valid arguments. I added an observation that 'According to the Traffic Signs Manual, Chapter 5 Figure 17. 1010 an arc is used to signify the continuation of a with-flow of Bus Lane. This differentiates it from (i.e. avoids confusion with) the start of a with-flow Bus Lane. ' In the BBC London news item about confusing road signs 'Transport for London are reported to be keen to understand where we are issuing PCNs (Penalty Charge Notices) and keen to understand if the reason why we are issuing high numbers of PCNs is because individual drivers are confused.' So this begs the question what have TfL done to investigate such confusion at this site. Any non compliance to the TSM as in the previous points could surely be grounds for confusion. [NB The system won't allow me to give the link but google "BBC London confusing road signs"] In a similar thread to this one Johnny Rocker was told in Oct 2008 'The reason Transport for London are not contesting your appeal case is due to KIDBROOKE PARK ROAD SE3 being an unenforceable location. So what action have TfL taken to make this bus lane enforcable? [Again, I can't give the link but google "Johhny Rocker Kidbrooke Park Bus Lane"] So if TfL have judged it unenforcable and it is recognised a confusing why has best practice not been implemented since the introduction of the Bus Lanes in 2004? Cheers KK
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