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  1. One last thing... for now, at least... I forgot to mention about the delivery cost. I guess it would be fair to include in the chargeback claim, wouldn't it?
  2. Alright then Rebel11. I'll give it a go. Thanks for your help.
  3. Hi Rebel11 i vaguely read about this on the CAB site i think. It's just that after the Furniture Ombudsman ruled in favour of the retailer, when I really thought that I had a case, I am more than keen to get this over and done with asap. So, now out of the small court claim and chargeback, which one is more likely to be advisable?
  4. I really would like this to be over and done with. My back is killing me. On 26/07/14, I purchase a sofa and a footstool for £649 and £279 respectively, which was delivered on 13/09/14 (one week later than the given date). After trying a few, and on the recommendation of the shop assistant, I ended up choosing this particular sofa - the Prairie model. All paid for by the delivery date. I've made 2 payments (an initial deposit, then reminder at the delivery). To cut a long story short, as I am sick and tired of regurgitating that story. The product is not as described, contrary to Sofaworks advertising the sofa as providing “brilliant support”, it does not such thing. Where my lower back should rest against the lumbar part of the cushion, it is positioned in the gap between the back cushion and the seat cushion. Therefore, not providing a much needed support. Prior to the delivery of the current sofa, I sat/rested on a quilt on the floor for about 3-4 mths and was rather eager to get another sofa asap. Mr Jason Tyldesley Cc: Complaint Dept. Sofaworks Golborne Point Ashton Road Golborne WA3 3UL "Dear Mr Tyldesley and Customer service, Re: 1530793 I have sent 2 emails to Sofaworks on the delivery day, ie Saturday 13/09/2014, to raise the following issues: · That within 5 mn of the time when the delivery men left, I have noticed a small damaged area (see photo attached) by the right foot (facing the sofa), which seems to contradict the claim on your website that “Natural leather throughout, Sofaworks do not use imitation leather or PVC”. · That contrary to what I had experienced and been told in the shop, the sofa provides “Superb comfort, excellent shape and brilliant support”. That it does not do, which I have notified Sofaworks on with a note left on the re-delivery invoice handed to me by the delivery men. On that note, I mentioned that the seats tend to sink in and are not as firm as those of the showroom. In the interest of fairness, I would like to say that the service in the shop is good. The shop assistant was polite and helpful; that the sofa does look good (apart from that small damaged area). However, it goes downhill from thereon in terms of customer service. Once the sale has been assured and the good paid for, it is a totally different story. As mentioned above, I have emailed Sofaworks on Saturday, no one has bothered to get in touch via phone or email. Today, Tuesday 16/09/2014, I finally picked up the phone to voice my concerns. Not unusually, I was asked to call another number, which I did, not before being told to read my contract, that no refund is possible. I have a rather simple solution to this issue, in the first instance, why don’t Sofaworks ensure that they do not make false statements; that they ensure that their products is of the quality that they purpot them to be; that they use quality products/materials to build their furniture (ie fillings and springs that provide the right amount of support, leather if the product is supposed to be as opposed to fake leather, that “Solid wooden feet matched to the design” be in solid wood –as it stands 2/4 are in some wood and 2/4 are in plastic, that of the stool are all “solid” plastic etc….). Trying to cut corners is a no win situations, customers get irritated, which ensues a lengthy claim, then they talk around them of their bad experience (not the best type of advertising). I have been told over the phone today, that I will receive the visit of a manager on Thursday 18/09/2014 between 8-9am; that I will receive a phone call the evening before (after 6pm) to confirm the visit and the time of the visit. I did mention that: 1) I would not take time off to deal with issue, 2) I have to leave for work soon after 9am. Should the above mentioned issues not be fully satisfactorily resolved by Friday 26th September 2014, I will not hesitate to log a complaint with a consumer action group, and as a last resort I will go to the Furniture Ombudsman. My consumer rights states that : 1. The good must be fit for purpose This is what is on your own website and what I was told at the point of selling, having made it clear that it was an essential requirement for me to purchase this particular item, “Superb comfort, excellent shape and brilliant support”, 2. Be of satisfactory appearance and finish As mentioned in my emails (x2) dated 13/09/2014, small damaged area (see photo attached), 3. Be free of minor defects See both points above 1) and 2), 4. Be safe of use Not according to the lower back pain experienced as soon as I seat in this sofa (writing this email, I am in the standing position) So far, it is a very disappointing experience, after waiting for the sofa and having the delivery postponed by a week, I was not expecting this. I was expecting being able to come home and relax in a comfortable sofa. There is enough source of stress in life and can do without this one." Furthermore, I have sent my complaint to the Furniture Ombudsman, only for them to rule in favour of the retailer, due to lack of evidence. I am unsure as to how I can convey the lack of support with a picture. Though I did attempt to send a video, but it was readable by the Ombudsman system. In a letter addressed to me by the FO, it stipulates that “our case officers will look at the history of the problem, and, if necessary, examine samples. We may give advice to you or the retailer (or to both) to enable the complaint to be resolved quickly and informally. Where this is not possible we will decide whether we need further information from you or the retailer, or if we need to test or inspect your furniture, before we can make an adjudication decision. If we do, we will contact you and explain this to you. In the majority of cases that we deal with, a test or inspection report is not necessary . Where we do consider that an inspection is necessary, an independent expert will contact you to arrange a convenient time to visit you. If you do not wish to have testing or inspection carried out we can make a decision based on the evidence that has been presented so far. Please not however that we will often recommend that testing or an inspection be carried out so that we have sufficient evidence to support a claim and without this we may not be able to support a complaint”. "Dear Miss .... Thank you for your e-mail and I am sorry that you feel you do not wish to enter into any verbal discussion. As you are aware, the Service Manager who attended your home on Thursday 18th September fully assessed the furniture and confirmed that there were no inherent manufacturing defects with them. Whilst we understand this is not meeting your personal expectations in terms of comfort, we confirm that under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended), you are not entitled to a full refund. We can only therefore confirm that your only options at this time are as discussed during our conversation. We look forward to hearing further from you after you have had the opportunity to consider these. Best regards Samantha Greenwood Technical Services Team Manager Sofaworks" The FO has not offered such inspection to me, for some reason. They just based their decision on the evidence from the retailer. When I contested their decision a couple of times, they emailed to let me know that they were closing the case. As simple as that. (copy of emails exchanged attached). I will be able to provide pdf copies to you of the letters next week, as I do not have a scanner in working order at home.
  5. Thanks for getting back to me so rapidly. I have been trying other avenues in the meantime. Still awaiting to hear from them. I really would like this to be over and done with. My back is killing me. On 26/07/14, I purchase a sofa and a footstool for £649 and £279 respectively, which was delivered on 13/09/14 (one week later than the given date). After trying a few, and on the recommendation of the shop assistant, I ended up choosing this particular sofa - the Prairie model. All paid for by the delivery date. I've made 2 payments (an initial deposit, then reminder at the delivery). To cut a long story short, as I am sick and tired of regurgitating that story. The product is not as described, contrary to Sofaworks advertising the sofa as providing “brilliant support”, it does not such thing. Where my lower back should rest against the lumbar part of the cushion, it is positioned in the gap between the back cushion and the seat cushion. Therefore, not providing a much needed support. Prior to the delivery of the current sofa, I sat/rested on a quilt on the floor for about 3-4 mths and was rather eager to get another sofa asap. Mr Jason Tyldesley Cc: Complaint Dept. Sofaworks Golborne Point Ashton Road Golborne WA3 3UL "Dear Mr Tyldesley and Customer service, Re: 1530793 I have sent 2 emails to Sofaworks on the delivery day, ie Saturday 13/09/2014, to raise the following issues: · That within 5 mn of the time when the delivery men left, I have noticed a small damaged area (see photo attached) by the right foot (facing the sofa), which seems to contradict the claim on your website that “Natural leather throughout, Sofaworks do not use imitation leather or PVC”. · That contrary to what I had experienced and been told in the shop, the sofa provides “Superb comfort, excellent shape and brilliant support”. That it does not do, which I have notified Sofaworks on with a note left on the re-delivery invoice handed to me by the delivery men. On that note, I mentioned that the seats tend to sink in and are not as firm as those of the showroom. In the interest of fairness, I would like to say that the service in the shop is good. The shop assistant was polite and helpful; that the sofa does look good (apart from that small damaged area). However, it goes downhill from thereon in terms of customer service. Once the sale has been assured and the good paid for, it is a totally different story. As mentioned above, I have emailed Sofaworks on Saturday, no one has bothered to get in touch via phone or email. Today, Tuesday 16/09/2014, I finally picked up the phone to voice my concerns. Not unusually, I was asked to call another number, which I did, not before being told to read my contract, that no refund is possible. I have a rather simple solution to this issue, in the first instance, why don’t Sofaworks ensure that they do not make false statements; that they ensure that their products is of the quality that they purpot them to be; that they use quality products/materials to build their furniture (ie fillings and springs that provide the right amount of support, leather if the product is supposed to be as opposed to fake leather, that “Solid wooden feet matched to the design” be in solid wood –as it stands 2/4 are in some wood and 2/4 are in plastic, that of the stool are all “solid” plastic etc….). Trying to cut corners is a no win situations, customers get irritated, which ensues a lengthy claim, then they talk around them of their bad experience (not the best type of advertising). I have been told over the phone today, that I will receive the visit of a manager on Thursday 18/09/2014 between 8-9am; that I will receive a phone call the evening before (after 6pm) to confirm the visit and the time of the visit. I did mention that: 1) I would not take time off to deal with issue, 2) I have to leave for work soon after 9am. Should the above mentioned issues not be fully satisfactorily resolved by Friday 26th September 2014, I will not hesitate to log a complaint with a consumer action group, and as a last resort I will go to the Furniture Ombudsman. My consumer rights states that : 1. The good must be fit for purpose This is what is on your own website and what I was told at the point of selling, having made it clear that it was an essential requirement for me to purchase this particular item, “Superb comfort, excellent shape and brilliant support”, 2. Be of satisfactory appearance and finish As mentioned in my emails (x2) dated 13/09/2014, small damaged area (see photo attached), 3. Be free of minor defects See both points above 1) and 2), 4. Be safe of use Not according to the lower back pain experienced as soon as I seat in this sofa (writing this email, I am in the standing position) So far, it is a very disappointing experience, after waiting for the sofa and having the delivery postponed by a week, I was not expecting this. I was expecting being able to come home and relax in a comfortable sofa. There is enough source of stress in life and can do without this one." Furthermore, I have sent my complaint to the Furniture Ombudsman, only for them to rule in favour of the retailer, due to lack of evidence. I am unsure as to how I can convey the lack of support with a picture. Though I did attempt to send a video, but it was readable by the Ombudsman system. In a letter addressed to me by the FO, it stipulates that “our case officers will look at the history of the problem, and, if necessary, examine samples. We may give advice to you or the retailer (or to both) to enable the complaint to be resolved quickly and informally. Where this is not possible we will decide whether we need further information from you or the retailer, or if we need to test or inspect your furniture, before we can make an adjudication decision. If we do, we will contact you and explain this to you. In the majority of cases that we deal with, a test or inspection report is not necessary . Where we do consider that an inspection is necessary, an independent expert will contact you to arrange a convenient time to visit you. If you do not wish to have testing or inspection carried out we can make a decision based on the evidence that has been presented so far. Please not however that we will often recommend that testing or an inspection be carried out so that we have sufficient evidence to support a claim and without this we may not be able to support a complaint”. "Dear Miss .... Thank you for your e-mail and I am sorry that you feel you do not wish to enter into any verbal discussion. As you are aware, the Service Manager who attended your home on Thursday 18th September fully assessed the furniture and confirmed that there were no inherent manufacturing defects with them. Whilst we understand this is not meeting your personal expectations in terms of comfort, we confirm that under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended), you are not entitled to a full refund. We can only therefore confirm that your only options at this time are as discussed during our conversation. We look forward to hearing further from you after you have had the opportunity to consider these. Best regards Samantha Greenwood Technical Services Team Manager Sofaworks" The FO has not offered such inspection to me, for some reason. They just based their decision on the evidence from the retailer. When I contested their decision a couple of times, they emailed to let me know that they were closing the case. As simple as that. (copy of emails exchanged attached). I will be able to provide pdf copies to you of the letters next week, as I do not have a scanner in working order at home.
  6. Hi there, Today, I have received an answer back from the Furniture Ombudsman and my claim against Sofaworks was not upheld, which obviously is very disappointing. I am now left with a 2-seater sofa and a footstool which I hardly use as such. I have taken up to have one cushion on the floor (as then it doesn't sag as much as when it is on the sofa springs - the floor providing a harder and more supportive base) and leave the other cushion to provide lower back support. Imagine!!!! Hence, don't really have any use for the footstool. Anyway, I am uncertain as to how the Ombudsman came to their decision. Supposedly they have written to not only the retailer, but also to the manufacturer, and surprise, surprise both would have defended their products, saying that there is nothing wrong with them. I am left rather confused, upset and downright unfairly treated. The 1st letter from the Ombudsman says that ""a conciliation officer will take a detailed look into your [my] complaint and contact you with our initial opinion": this did not happen. They also say "We aim to come to a fair conclusion so it is necessary for us to gather evidence from both parties to the dispute". All the evidence they have "gathered" from me was the application form I have sent at the beginning of October. I have not been visited by anyone to check the furniture for themselves before they"come to a fair conclusion". I had physio sessions for my back and using that sofa (even for short periods) only seemed to have made things worse. I am unsure as to what to do next. Any idea? At I am at my wits end.
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