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  1. It's a loophole the industry is well aware of, but there is nothing to prevent people from doing this. Ryde, Newhaven and Pevensey season tickets are more popular than they ought to be.
  2. I had a situation with Southeastern a while back. One of their Revenue Protection Inspectors issued me with a Penalty Fare somewhere in the region of £68, so I was legally required to provide them with my name and address. I appealed on the basis that the ticket I presented to the inspector was valid for the journey I was undertaking, only he wasn't sufficiently trained on how to determine the validity of tickets. The favoured approach is issuing a Penalty Fare or calling the British Transport Police over verifying the validity of the ticket. The appeal was upheld
  3. I wonder what the basis was for appealing against a prevously unpaid £2.60 fare?
  4. If the passenger couldn't buy the ticket(s) of their choice at their origin station then they should be offered the full range of tickets at the first available opportunity. Nowadays with the virtues of the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, there is no obligation to make a journey using only one through ticket (or get off a train at the stop where tickets are changed.) As such I think it's safer to assume that retailing guidelines correspond to that than risk a passenger kicking up a stink because they were told by a member of staff that they were subject to a disadvantage by the lack of t
  5. I've been exploiting a number of loopholes from the National Routeing Guide (NRG) myself over the last couple of years. I have correspondence between ATOC and East Midlands Trains showing that they wanted to make the NRG maps advisory only subject to NRE JP validation from a few months ago. However, I'm just one person and there are probably only a handful of people who actively use the NRG to use such loopholes, possibly a few more like Mr Myers who stumble upon them by trial and error, word of mouth or by pure accident. Up until this point, ATOC and the TOCs only patched over the loopho
  6. It's very user unfriendly and now pointless to the casual user, because a route is only valid if it is shown as valid in the National Rail Enquiries Journey Planner.
  7. I am too and I don't drive unless there are no standees upstairs or on the staircase!
  8. I purchased a ticket from Canterbury West to Tilbury Riverside around 7 weeks ago. The ticket was routed "TILBY EXCL FERRY," translated on Southeastern's website as "Via Tilbury but Not via Ferry." I boarded the train at Canterbury West. The On Board Manager prior to Ashford International who endorsed my ticket "NOT HS1" with his pen and stated that I was to get off at Ashford International and travel via Tonbridge and London Bridge, which was not permitted with this ticket. Of my own accord, but not by choice, I got off at Ashford Interntional. I obtained an itine
  9. The details are not relevant as the OP is only questioning the principle. If a ticket has more than one permitted route, there is no requirement to return by the same route as used on the outward portion.
  10. If your sister is not a holder of a 16+ Zip Card in her own right then she is likely to be prosecuted and receive a criminal record. She may also be up for a theft charge. If you are found to have allowed her to use your card then you won't get another easily.
  11. What was the discount in question - Two Together Railcard? Whatever the T&Cs are, they won't change because somebody decides they won't travel.
  12. The point I'm making is, a settlement offer of £100 is likely to elicit an identical response to that of £500. Therefore, leading desperate people up the garden path isn't something to be at all proud of.
  13. Of course they will bite your hand off if you send them £250 - £500. I wouldn't consider that a successful outcome at all. What this forum is doing is filling the pockets of the TOCs and making it less fair on those who may only be able to offer a modest and more reasonable settlement.
  14. Hi, You are going to have at least one criminal record for the rest of your life. Even when it is spent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974, there are still career paths which are exempt from that, so you may still be required to declare it. You may be wealthy, but that criminal conviction is a permanent stain on your record. This is what happens when you decide to use a Freedom Pass that you are not entitled to. It's not something that can be done accidentally - I live with someone that has a Freedom Pass and it has never once crossed my mind to ask to borrow it, so I can
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