Am i wrong in assuming that if it was unpaid, then the court would have taken further action ? I mean I have a clean basic crb and pnc check and I am using that as leverage to believe that it indeed was settled... Also called up marston group and phillips collections ( They are the bailiffs that courts give out their work ) and they too dont have any details about me....

by cra files do you mean credit files ?

Thanks Dx again but in back of my mind I am unable to stop worrying about it unless I know this is settled. I called up London underground prosecution and he said because the fine was imposed by magistrates court he wouldnt know if it was repaid or not. When I told him I had my CRB and PNC come out clean he said that these prosecutions wont come up on there, I am quite surprised because he was very keen to mention in beginning that I am convicted and hence have a criminal record, what I dont know if how come there is no information about it in PNC. So the central accouting office arent able to help and LU dont know anything, the court which imposed the fine is no more ( Marylebone Magistrates' court ) so I dont know which court to write to. Lets say if it was unpaid and I had mvoed to a new place, wouldnt the bailiffs have found out where I live, given that my National insurance, my council tax bill are all having my address. I feel so stupid of losing the payment slip book!

I know what you mean but I moved to a new address shortly so if something had come through at old address I wouldnt know. Do you know if the fine was unpaid would it lead to further conviction and some criminal proceeding ?

hi, I was caught on london underground in 2004 for travelling without ticket and avoiding fare, i dint have money to pay the fare or ticket and so the ticket checking inspector took my details and let me go. I moved place after little while and after few weeks I got a call from my old landlord in may 2005 that I have received letter from marylebone magistrates court. It was a fine of £152.50 and I was scared, I paid the £52.50 up front and for the rest of £100 I asked for weekly instalment of £10. Now I cant remember paying off the whole £100 as this was may/june 2005. I know in back of my mind I would have paid off, the only proof I could have was the payment slip book I got from the central accounting office to pay off the fine, which I have lost unfortunately. after this many years I tried to find out if my fine is settled, I called up the central accouting office and they dont have record of my account, the court that imposed the fine seems to be replaced by city of westminster magistrate court and they too dont have any of my details. Assuming if the fine was unpaid, it would have resulted in further conviction. So I had a basic crb done and a pnc record search done and both came out clean. Can I assume the fine was indeed settled and I am being paranoid ? Is there any London prosecution number that can help ? Is it possible that my records have not been passed to pnc, the letter i got from court clearly said failure to pay can lead to arrest, I am assuming that had I failed to make the payment it surely would have resulted in some sort of record on PNC. Kindly advise, Golu

Thanks CodjA, I called up the court today and they dont have any records on their system for a 5 year old case, they reckon they have archived my case and hence would have to retrieve it.. I have already sent them a written letter as requested by them to start retrieving the archive process...I am told it might take a month or so and may be charged..Funny thing is I have checked trust online org and there dont seem to be any information about me.. Also I am going to do a basic disclosure CRB on me to see if there are any unspent conviction on me...

thanks for your reply. I cant find the first correspondences from the court, the only one I have says 'ORDER' and does not contain any information about any charge, it just says fine of 152.50 pence and its break down as RAILWAY - FAIL PAY LONDON UNDERGROUND FCOMP 2.50 FCOST 50.00 FO 100.00 It is from marylebone magistrates court ( mind you this was may 2005) and it also says failure to pay may result in warrant for your arrest. It has a fine reference number on it. Can I contact the court to find out if this made to PNC. I have also checked on trust online org uk which is now the register of judgements of magistrates court and county court but dint find anything on my record... thanks again

I have a question of my own and I have posted it in a seperate thread so spare me if you find this repetitive. In nov 2004 I was travelling without a ticket and then was caught, I was new to the country then and basically agreed to whatever the ticket inspector said, they asked me to pay 20 pounds on the spot but I dint have that money then so they let me go after taking my address. I dint receive any letter from them for four weeks and then I changed my address. So after 4 months I got a call from old landlord informing me of a court summons letter he has got for me, I collected the letter and realised it was from marylebone magistrates court and fine for 150 pounds. I immediately called them and paid 50 pounds and paid the other 100 in installments, until now I dint realise that this could possibly be a criminal conviction. It has stuck me now and I want to know if this was put down as a criminal conviction or judgement against me, I have checked the trustonline.org.uk register to see if there was any judgement against me but couldnt find anything. Is there any way I can find out if there was a criminal conviction against me ? your input will be highly appreciated.. thanks, Golu

hi All, I had an inciden with london underground in 2004 when I was new to UK and travelling without a valid ticket, they did an interview with me and then let me go, (as I dint have 20 pounds to pay on the spot ). I think they concluded that I was trying to avoid the fare, then I dint get any letters from them for another four weeks and then I moved to a new address. After 6 months or so I got a call from my previous landlord and he told me I had a letter from court, I went there and I could see there was a fine of 150 pounds from the magistrates court, I paid the money in few installments as I dint have 150 pounds then. Unfortunately I have lost the letter and hence I dont even remember what court issued me that fine and if it was a summons. IS there someway I can find out if this was regisetered as a criminal record against me or a court judgement ? Any guidance in right direction will be extremely helpful