colinliu2010
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Oh and I think in this case .... council acts frivolously
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In this case for example: forums pepipoo com/lofiversion/index.php/t49831.html It is totally outrageous and to think councils can get away with robbery!!!
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It's clearly obvious the authority have taken advantage and from yourself, even you are saying it is very likely the PCN will be cancelled. Compensation.....the stresses, time for research and how clearly westminster is in the act of fraud and taking full advantage of drivers' minimal knowledge!!!!!!!!
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Hi Guys, Just a quick update. Not surprisingly, they rejected my appeal and now it's to the adjudicator. I have come across this article and think it may help my case. www ticketfighter co uk/parking.htm Although it did not mention buses, Pay and display, limited stay, motorcycle, doctor, residents and business permit parking bays I assume this is true for buses too? I will now resort to the adjudicator. Do you think it is viable for some form of compensation? Thanks All again
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Looking at the list above, from Westminster Bridge to its junction with Northumberland Avenue. I actually parked past Northumberland Street. Near Embankment Station opposite the Victoria Embankment park. Looks like I can not challenge based on this information? Will challenge based on unclear signage and road markings. Since 50 yards down the road there are clear markings saying BUSES ONLY, CYCLES Only and MOTORCYCLES ONLY and one can easily overlook! 10 yards in front of my car, there is red route, why would I not park there if i had known!!!
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Appreciate your feedbacks. i was actually parked on Victoria Embankment (A3211), close to Embankment station. The signs are unclear and one can misinterrupt the signs easily. Attached are also road markings on the area, without the white tam lines, compared to the markings down the road close to Big Ben, is unclear and does not clearly show they are bus only. So, based on the unclear signage, and highlighting "The Whitehall Parking Enforcement Area Excluded from the Special Parking Area Comprising Those Roads and Parts of Roads Described in Part II of this Schedule", I will based my challenge on these facts. In addition, I have a witness that can verify there was no PCN attached although the photos contradict this. Hope this helps!!!
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Looking at the photos, it does appear to have a PCN attached but it WASN't there when I arrived and I have a witness as I mentioned I was with a friend!!! Anyone successfully challenged on the grounds of unclear signage before? You can see from the position of the car, I was unaware of any BUS road markings
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Oh, the NTO was received on the 23rd Sep. So recently.
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Yes it was in Westminster except on this occasion it was on a Saturday at around 820pm. It did have a sign with: The top half of the sign shows coach parking fees in action for 8.30am-midnight and no parking for coaches midnight -8.am in the lower section. the middle sections shows parking restrictions in action for the monday to friday and the saturday. at no point does the sign show no car parking. on these grounds incorrect sinage should get you off the ticket. But I found it confusing and agree that it did not state no cars. It was dark, and having went to the bay today, noticed the Bus road markings. I did not see these, again, it was starts to get dark at this time and one would like for any OBVIOUS signs, at the same eye level. These are some additional pics: I was parked near the bikes at the rear. Usually, there would be white tram lines similar to this: So one would look for signs. This is what I had in front of me too:
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Thanks for that. I will post something tonight.
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OK, It looks like I am at fault. The sign, although small, does say buses and coaches only. I am at fault but I did not receive a PCN and I have been posted a NOTICE TO OWNER. If I can challenge whether the serving of the PCN was made correctly I presume I may default to the maximum fine of £120? Something tells me I should pay, but I was unaware I was at fault and missed the discount deadline. £120 down the drain is a lot of money to throw. Any advise? Thanks Colin
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Hi thanks for the reply. I will check the sign today to verify this. will upload a photo for reference and a summary of the letter. As for no discount, no PCN was attached and any notification was made by post. I presume, you are saying this on the basis, the PCN was attached?
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"Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle." I am not sure whether I have contravened but in place I parked, a friend and I checked the signs and they clearly showed, at the time, it was outside any controlling hours and there was no mention of designated class of vehicle. So question? If I did park in the alleged space, would I still be liable for payment whether I have parked outside the designated time or not? In addition, no PCN was attached to my windscreen, and I was posted a letter highlighting the incident. I presume therefore any PCN was not served correctly? Finally, if I parked in the space, PCN was served, although I dispute, and I am liable for payment, should I not be entitled to a discount? This was not offered and I have demanded to pay the full £120. Legally am I entitled to a discount?
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Basically, i was allegedly parked in a suspended bay. From I recall, two years ago, the road did have bays closed, and I was not parked in any of them. Unfortunately I can not prove anything at the time of the incident because I was UNAWARE I had a PCN! Only when letters of NTO and baliffs arrive did this come to light. So, the questions are: 1) Can I demand access to the original digital photos. According the the Freedom of Information Act 2000 from Information Commision, I may be able to. I wanted to confirm? 2) The PCN was issued in March 2008, and my case was referred to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal london and was rejected. I plan to appeal on the decision due to administrative errors and they haven't taken my evidence into considersation. But it has been over two years now, Is the PCN still valid? Thanks guys
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Suspended/Closed parking bay. Yes.
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