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  1. Thank you Nintendo, obviously I like what you say, its what I want to be so, but does that mean that on page 3. where it says they Can charge fees, that it means just that? i.e. they can charge but there is no obligation to pay? If so it still suprises me, because officials dont seem to normally bother saying things like that where there is no point to it. It does seem like they are listing out actual rules. I cannot pay them anyway, but also I cannot afford if you are mistaken, to defy them and find out later they have the power to add even more charges for more visits and letters etc.
  2. Thank you, my brother paid the outstanding fine today. I do not think Nintendo said pay any fees at all, in fact he said offer to pay the fine, and complain that the bailiff is trying to swindle me with his fees. What are permitted fees? As far as I can tell the fees that they are demanding are all permitted because they are certified bailiffs as it says on page 3. I just do not understand why I see the wording of page 3. as saying the opposite of what Nintendo does, but because a lot of the discussion on here says they cant charge fees I do not want to accept that I have to pay. I mean how can an unexperienced person like me know better than experienced people on here. By the way the bailiff only came to my house one time and left the a letter, they are demanding £225 on top of the fine.
  3. Sorry, the without prejudice was just me injecting a bit of light heartedness. Don't know why I bother as it is awkward to know someone is joking or exactly what people mean or the emotions involved in this sort of environment. I really do appreciate You trying to help me, but the problem I have is this constant confusion, whereby You say page 3. shows that the bailiff has unlawfully, or incorrectly tried to get fees from me, I can only see the opposite. Could you please clear this up for me? You say read page 3. to the court office manager. I will paste below in bold, the parts of page 3. that if I read to the court office manager, I believe will simply make the case for the bailiff. How do bailiffs and enforcement officers recover the money you owe? Fees charged by Bailiffs/Enforcement Officers County court bailiffs — the fees charged by the county courts for using the bailiffs will be added to the amount owed. Any additional costs for removing and selling goods will be added to the amount you owe. Enforcement officers — (High Court) are entitled to charge fees and add them to the money you owe. Certificated and non-certificated bailiffs — are entitled to charge fees and add them to the money you owe. Page 3
  4. Thank You, To my mind, according to what you say above, I do not have to pay the bailiffs fees? Are you saying that if I have not agreed to pay, & a section 93 costs order has not been applied, then the bailiffs can definitely not charge me fee's? I have not agreed to pay them, but have written explaining my circumstances, and asking them to remove the extra charges and allow me time to pay the fine amount. I hope that does not constitute an offer to pay, legally? I could copy on to here the letter they sent me if that would help anyone to advise me without prejudice. I have not heard anything about a section 93 costs order, so I am sure that has not been applied. Obviously I cannot & would not ask anyone on here to tell me what I should do, but I am hoping I can get to a point where I can refuse to pay the bailiffs, with the confidence that the so and so's cannot get to me. As we know, they would not have an ounce of mercy for anyone if they can possibly get You in any way.
  5. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you very much for your help, Sorry, it may well be my lack of understanding but I have looked at that first link you gave, and this bit ...... (Fees charged by Bailiffs/Enforcement Officers County court bailiffs — the fees charged by the county courts for using the bailiffs will be added to the amount owed. Any additional costs for removing and selling goods will be added to the amount you owe. Civilian enforcement officers (CEO’S) Magistrates’ Courts — are not allowed to charge you more than the amount you are fined. However, additional costs for removing and selling goods may be added to the amount you owe. Enforcement officers — (High Court) are entitled to charge fees and add them to the money you owe. Certificated and non-certificated bailiffs — are entitled to charge fees and add them to the money you owe. Certificated bailiffs — collecting council tax, community charge, distress for rent, road traffic debts and non-domestic rates, should leave a copy of the fee scales that they can charge with you when they visit your premises. Bailiffs and enforcement officers are not allowed to charge you more than the amounts stated for that piece of work in the scale of fees. There is no statutory scale of fees for bailiffs enforcing magistrates’ courts fines. You can contact the magistrates’ court direct and ask for the agreed scale of fees that bailiffs can charge.) seems to say that in my case they are entitled to claim the fees on top of the fine?? Paul.
  6. Hello everybody, I am sorry if I have got this wrong, but I am not experienced in using forums, and wasnt sure how or where to post, I was going round in circles. Having said that, this is a wonderful, helpful resource and thank you and all contributors for it. I will donate forthwith. I have been trying to find out if I have to pay the £225 fees Marstons have plonked on top of an £80 speeding fine which I had paid £40 of to the court. I am unemployed. I could not afford to pay the original amount and was given time by the court. I paid some installments and then got into more financial trouble along with a lot of other problems and forgot about it, my fault I know but its just the truth. I have not received warning letters they say were sent to me. I phoned Marstons, they said nothing they can do, you must pay in full or phone the court. I wrote to court, they said nothing we can do, contact Marstons. I have written to Marstons saying I cannot pay their fees, and I need time anyway. I think I know what their answer will be. After reading as much as I can on here, I am afraid I still do not understand if I am under any legal obligation to pay Marstons any more than the original balance of the fine. Am I right in saying there is a dispute amongst knowledgeable people on here as to wether or not bailiffs are entitled claim fees from people on top of the court fine if they are certified bailiffs or high court enforcement officers? Thank you in advance, Paul.
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