... and shortly after signing the Act into place, Woodrow Wilson, US President said... "I fear I have betrayed my country". It was here in the City of London the whole thing started, maybe this is the place where the change has to come from.

Jed, Henry Ford said of the monetary system not long after the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 that gave the banksters the power to issue and control the US Dollar... "... if the people knew about this fraud, there would be a revolution overnight..." What do you think the uni-students are about? - if you were to check out the videos put up by DAD, you will begin to see the problems we have - not just us, there is now a Central Bank in every country in the world... their progress over the years since 1913 has been relentless, regardless of the cost of lives lost - and there have been many.... Vietnam, Iraq, Afghan... I could go back to WW1 and expose the links to the banksters - those who seek global power as one bank, one government etcetera... boom boom, end of innocence. As for my eloquence, don't believe it, I write as I speak, (fatal) I am finding it so very difficult to put the letters together to stave off the banks - well actually, it's all DCA's now, but, I think I may have blotted my copy book with cag helpers ranting on about this money system. Never forget, the monetary system is a pyramid... it needs constant feeding - and we all know what happens to pyramids if they're not fed enough hay to keep them moving... just like our OAP, they collapse. In this context, new consumer markets need opening and developing... many believe that was why FDR agreed to help us out with Lease Lend to fight the Jerries in WW2 - his own country was in the doldrums and they already had loads of junk they could sell the 'limey's' - WW1 artillery shells that failed to explode, ancient warships and so-on - eventually they came into the war with the intention of destroying western europe (to help us of course) with the underlying thoughts of the enormous export trade there would be in re-building Germany, this country and others - Japan as well, but that too is another story. This what Bretton Woods, the Marshall Plan was about - to lend credit to Europe/Japan so they could spend money back to the US in return for 'services' to rebuild their countries - and oh boy, did the Yanks profit or did they not? - but then the banksters got cracking again and started stealing their wealth with more booms and busts. Don't get me wrong, I know a number of them and they're okay. All to feed the pyramid - ever see the one on the USdollar, with the evil eye at the tip - that's them, the banksters - we're all at the bottom shovelling in our equity for them to steal. The intermediates are central banks, banks, gov's, large corporations, local governments, police, armed forces and so-on, we're right at the bottom holding them all up with our labour. None of it is necessary... inflation is a weapon the banks use to take our wealth from us in their carefully orchestrated inflationary and deflationary boom and bust periods - ALL PLANNED to transfer wealth to them - believe it. End of rant Thankyou - I hope some of us will sit up and take notice, but I do appreciate most people are here because they are hurting - as my family is.

Jed, it is estimated that if the money system were reverted to full reserve, there would be problems for about a year, then it would settle down - better a year than waiting for our turn to be 'absorbed' into the federation of europe and condemn all future generations to slavery - with no hope of escape. I think it's time for us all to find out, we owe it to our children, THE children who already have been sold into slavery by the last labour gov't and all previous gov'ts to banksters and investors all over the world - Gilt Edged Securities are derivatives that are traded for money.... the gilts, the government bonds are backed by our equity and labour - personally, I did not give the gov't permission to sell me... ... but this is another story - the story of Commercial/Admiralty law, the Inns of Court and the City of London - a sovereign state the size of a square mile inside our capital city.

Nice one DAD... we seem to follow the same path - I just hope I live long enough to see it all happen. The is always the ultimate deterrent, the Commercial Lien route - but, this takes study - worth while if you can learn - my short term memory is shot - and if you have the money for the course. Seems to me Meacher is not on the same wavelength as Douglas Carswell, nor that guy in Ireland. What was envisaged by Winston Churchill as a united europe to guard against future wars, was not what we have today - the EC has become the foundation for a totalitarian dictatorship. Interesting times, eh? I wonder if other newspapers will run with the Express idea? - hope so

Have you seen the headlines of the Daily Express today? They have conducted a telephone survey and the result is 99% - GET OUT OF EUROPE. This is fantastic news. There's another too... A CALL TO ARMS... The Irish are calling for an end to debt money and to leave the EC... they have called for a march - I think in Dublin - tomorrow... Here's the video link... the building in the background is the Bank of Ireland - dunnit look like the Bank of England??? [video=youtube;Ing8xH3Qj-k] Boy oh boy, am I getting excited - but I know it will take time, at least the people are waking up - thank god.

well wot can a fella say? I'm always drinking - tea, coffee, water, squash, sherry, wine, the odd pink gin and I do like a nice long G & T... oh, and a glass of decent mild now and then - or whenever I can find one The line from the Goon Show song seemed so appropriate at that moment - glad I could raise a grin or two... my wife tells me I have a dreadful sense of humour so I have to try very hard. It's being so cheerful that keeps me going Cheers guys, charlie

Oh, yingtong yingtong yingtong yington yingtong yiddle I poo.... D'you think this langauge came to Spike when he was stationed in India with the Royal Artillery ? Anyone know what it means?

I think RSM Tenons are mainly chartered accountants - I do know they have a corporate debt collection side because they tried to get money for Yellow Pages from my son when his biz went down the swanee at the end of last year. They didn't have clue then about the CCAct and their paperwork was all over the place - they were trying to apply the CCAct to a limited company. Our experience? they shout a lot and can be very unpleasant on the telephone, but, we just told them to check their facts. They went away in the end when they realised that they were out of order.

There are forces at work now that will change the banking system.... from a Fractional Reserve to Full Reserve.... the proposals are already in the hands of leading authorities on the subject and the building of an army IN THIS COUNTRY to 'help' the prime minister make up his mind is also underway. (university students will be hard to stop once they realise what the future holds for them). The most evil confidence trick the world has ever known started in this country hundreds of years ago - it survived because the natives (us) were not educated and those who started it were able to bribe, blackmail or murder anyone who stood against them.... it was later put into America with the signing of the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 and from these two countries it has spread to pretty well every country in the world. John F Kennedy declared his intent to repeal the Act and print debt free money out of the US Treasury - (presidential order 000001) but, before he could do it, he was assassinated (they still don't have a water tight reason, the only one that makes sense is that he intended to close the Fed and revert the control/issuing of money free of debt to the people. Abraham Lincoln went the same way when he challenged the earlier versions of the Fed, when they were still independent of each other - he was assassinated too - and they still make lame excuses. As we allowed it to be 'exported' so the banksters could become richer than Croesus himself, it is only right that from this country the solution to fiat debt money created when a loan is made should originate. See Bank Charter Act 1844 (The Peel Act)

“Whoever may be guilty of abuse of power, be it Government, State, Employer, Trade Union or whoever, the law must provide a speedy remedy. Otherwise the victims will find their own remedy.” Alfred Thompson “Tom” Denning, 23 January 1899 – 5 March 1999.

Thanks for that Taz... there are no more ?'s at this time, his next move must be to get a basic bank a/c. I will keep an eye on this thread... Ta again, charlie

Good morning people... ... after much worry and scheming my son has decided to go for it.... he was truly stitched up by a very well known bank concerning a graduate business loan to help finance a franchise that also turned out to be a load of lies. That's by the by. He has a bike that is 10 years old (might fetch £1000 on a nice day) which he needs to get to a job when he finds one... does anyone know if they are likely to sell it? - he has no other assets and lives at home. Do they enquire what happened - how the state of affairs came about? He has no money - and his mother is getting poorer by the day, I have read that if your income is under £13,000 there are no fees to pay... anyone know if this is so? Be obliged for some thoughts here. I have only just found this forum and he has gone thru it, it has completely changed his attitude, much more cheerful now. Thanks charlie

This all went bonkers a few minutes ago....

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You are assuming, not thinking, Victoria... you are not thinking of those people who really are paying the price... would you be so complacent if your dad had been killed in WW1, WW2 - or Korea or VietNam, Irag or Aghan - for that is the name of the game... the pyramid needs constantly feeding. Why don't you all go see at these two places... see what they have to say, after all, THEY are trying to do something http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/2010/09/douglas-carswell http://prosperityuk.com/ Both are extensive, the prosperity one especially, lots of 'read more'... I think it is cruel to say that this system is best left alone when it has been the major cause and beneficiary of most conflict since Napoleon.

It's what it will lead to Victoria as the system runs out of steam - no suckers left to feed the pyramid. Of course there are loads of conspiracy theories, but we all know that there are those who are fundementally corrupt and evil..... and I think the banksters won the cup yonks ago... I don't mean the local managers, or even the big white chiefs, I'm talking about those whom Dennis Healey recognised, the real puppet masters whose faces are never seen, they just plan the ups and downs of the economies - especially so they can take profit out - and they can only do this by destroying many of us. Personally, I think Blair has got 3 7's (or is it 6's) on his scalp - not sure about Cameron yet, he doesn't seem to have the guts to keep us safe. Just ranting - not the right place so I'd better be off to Costa's and read the Daily Mail for free

Penny to a pound DAD... there are people who will say, 'ah, but that's America, no, that doesn't happen here'. 99.99999% of the people do not realise that the true centre of global evil throughout the last 300 years has not been Berlin, or Moscow or anywhere else except right here inside our own country, indeed, in the EC part of our own capital London - just over Blackfriars Bridge at the bottom of Fleet Street, up Ludgate Hill and on into the Square Mile... the City of London. It was here it all started - they took English Commercial/Maritime law and money to the four English speaking countries... America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - and then there's the Inns of Court to back them up... and you know what Shakespeare said? .... he said '... the first thing to do is kill all the lawyers'. The American Bar is franchised to one of the Inns of Court - there's far more to our 'special relationship' then people think. The War of Independence was all about this money business - and then, the bankers went from here to America and spread their evil all over the land, culminating in the Jekyll Island Meeting in 1910 which was followed by them taking FULL control of America when Pres Woodrow-Wilson signed, under duress in return for the bankers financing him into the White House in 1913. It is on record that at a later date he said 'I fear I have betrayed my country'. Then there's young Bush - how'd the hell did a half wit like that get in the White House?????? And who killed John Kennedy after issuing Presidential Order 00000001 - TO REPEAL THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT and print debt free money for the people. Then there was Abraham Lincoln who printed debt free money for people to pay off their debts. And so it goes on , a saga that no one can believe - those who can tell the truth, dare not - or they've been very handsomely rewarded to keep their mouths shut.

I appreciate all you say Victoria, but like everyone else bar a few, dadofholly and myself being two of a number of fast growing movements between here and the west coast of America ancl Canada, you are trying to excuse and fix a monetary system that is not fit for purpose any longer - it's a classic pyramid and like all pyramids it needs constantly feeding or it will collapse.... when the last of the wild countries has been drawn into the net of accepting so called democracy BY FORCE - (I call it democratic totalitarianism) and debt, the pyramid will collapse..... like all pyramids, the latest being the Old Age Pension, when they cannot be fed, they collapse. I believe that by subjugating the Afghans and by forcing democracy upon them together with slavery worse than the slavery of 200 years ago, DEBT SLAVERY, then the world moves closer to monetary collapse.... even now, there are those supporting a single worldwide currency - they are naive, poor souls for in truth, they are supporting a single worldwide government with a single world bank sitting on top. I won't speculate who sits on top of the bank, pulling the strings, might land me in trouble I would urge everyone to get their blasted heads out of the sand and wake up to the reality of our situation... in my view, the prognosis is far worse than 1939. At that time we were able to defeat evil, the greater evil is still here, biding its time. Once the net has closed all around the world, there will be no escape, ever. In 1939 this country had pride and it bred men with a capital M.... our local bike shop is owned and run to this day by one such man... all of FIVE FEET tall, he was nevertheless on the end of a parachute the day the Arnhem campaign started... now all they seem do is watch football on telly and other mind and muscle shrinking activities. Some time ago one of the Rockerfellas was heard to say on US tele (I saw the UTube video) that the answer to the global population problem, when they had the power was to dispose of a couple of billion. I believe also, the Rockerfellas are also shareholders in the Federal Reserve Bank - I think they were at the Jekyll Island meeting too. It suits the EU to make laws that protect their own interests... we, the British people, in the spirit of my hero, W S Churchill (who actually spoke to me once) should tell 'em go swivel. So there you go, who knows, BUT there are signs there for those who look that all is not well, that 'things that go bang in the night' are moving round.

You might also ask, how come the government goes along with all this debt and actually does nothing to help anyone. It is well able to instruct the Chancellor to order HM Treasury to print and issue as much money INTEREST FREE as the country needs to take the people out of debt. There is NO law of any kind that would prevent Cameron from doing this. http://www.positivemoney.org.uk/2010/09/douglas-carswell

Some time ago we wrote to Barclay following an SAR some months ago especially about the PPI on a loan about which nothing of relevance was mentioned in the SAR. We asked for a transcript of a single telephone call that took place and they stated in their reply that they would need the following info as they have millions of files - they also demanded another tenner.. The date of the of phone call, The time of the call took place, The number dialled, The number from which the call was made The full name of the bank representative. It is impossible to give some of this info as it all happened years ago and one does not log phone calls at home, especially Mr&Mrs Average at home . They also want another tenner - can they do this? and can they refuse the info if we cannot give these details? Many thanks charlie

Good morning all, Well, it seems that Default Notices can be issued as many times as it takes to get it right Going on from the recent discussions on the now closed 'Invalid Default Notices' forum, a well known OC has just issued a brand new Default Notice, which they claim to be correct, where a previous DN from months ago had been totally invalid - and Terminated in writing. From what I gathered from the recently closed forum it seems to me that there are going to be a lot of these floating around if the banks can just go on issuing new ones time after time until they get it right. I'm sure many Caggers would like to know how this could affect 'claims' that have already been sold & assigned to those DCA's who buy debts - I just can't get my head round this - hope someone can. Any thoughts would be appreciated, Many thanks charlie

Just a thought or two... Honest contracts are bilateral that is being based on the assumption of "equal consideration" amongst other factors such as "full disclosure".... if such conditions are not present, then the contract is unilateral and thus unfair and invalid How the heck can anyone decide whether or not to sign a contract when we the proles, goyim, slaves to the banksters - gun fodder (when they decide to have a war) are not allowed to be educated in the ways of money (except to save it in a bank – so they can leverage it into credit) nor the basic principles of contract so that we are well armed when we leave our schooling to go out into the world – at least knowing some of the questions to ask before committing ourselves to usury. I am starting to think that the CCAct might have been designed full of traps for us. I am watching all of this - and Pimpkins thread like a hawk, for my home is now on the line

Equitable Assignment, could there be an argument that a DCA can only claim arrears due as anything else is NOT YET DUE for payment? After all, a FAULTY terminated agreement could only claim arrears or am I having one of my senior moments???

Yes, DD - I do know, but, come what may, the message must get out if it does not, then nothing will change... that's why I have put up several 'rants' that have mostly been ignored.... an awful lot of good people are spending energy and money on bringing the extent of the [problem] to the attention of the people.... one must have hope for the future or what is the point.... I have a 27 year old son still at home (my zip broke one night when I was not so old - can't keep a good man down ) who has recently been conned out of £30,000 by a large franchise and I have 5 grandchildren, the last one is at 6th form now - second year. Not only that, but the bank which helped finance my son as a post grad admitted after he lost his company after just 10 months.. that they could have told him it would not work - BUT WERE NOT ALLOWED TO. What d'you think about that??? - a very well known bank too. I'm ranting again , all well intentioned - apologies everyone. charlie