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  1. pdf attached. Sorry for quality as taken by phone. PhoenixAvenue.pdf
  2. Hi, sorry for late reply as away. Anyway: what was the date of the parking event? : 02/02/2020 waht was the date on the NTK they snet you? : 04/02/2020 what was the date you received it? : 07/02/2020 Don't have the pictures of the site but will take next weekend. The whole place is still under construction. The actual post code is SE10 0ER, Phoenix Avenue. The bay has sign board "Loading only 7am - 10am" and "Business permit holders at any other time". No barriers on entry points and was waiting for someone. Probably was there for 7/8 mins. From their NTO on last para " ..the amount of the unpaid parking charge specified in this notice has not been paid in full, we will have the right to recover from the driver so much of that parking charge amount as remains unpaid."
  3. ok thanks. That appeal was a quick one on tablet . Date received is typo as should be 7th Feb 2020.
  4. Thanks. Thought the new rule on PPC is to reply on NTO so used online to make an appeal. What i'm looking more is PoFA2012 and CPM replied that it's irrelevant in this case. So does that mean as a registered keeper I'm not liable for this fine and I'm not obliged by law to disclose the driver's detail?
  5. i don't know. Don't think anyone actually came asking for permit.
  6. no. received the charge by post but reading their reply posted on 1st post, think it is issued by "operative" and not ANPR. When I looked the images on NTO, it seemed to me that the photos were taken from ground level so raised the question re why it was not attached/handed to driver at the time.
  7. 1 Date of the infringement 02/02/2019 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 04/02/2020 3 Date received 26/02/2020 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [Y/N?] no 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? yes. picture of vehicle from rear 6 Have you appealed? [Y/N?] post up your appeal] Y : I dispute your 'parking charge', as the keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability or contractual agreement as follows: PCN issued failed to mention the alleged contravention to which this charge is due The evidence provided doesn’t show any form of restrictions PCN state it’s a “Restricted Area” but failed to mention the kind of restrictions applicable on alleged location PCN state reason to issue is “no permit” but fails to mention the type of permit PCN fails to mention the duration of alleged parking and applicable grace period if any As such no breach of conditions as stated in PCN The evidence provided is the rear view of vehicle. What method was used to issue this PCN? If issued by enforcement officer, why was the PCN not fixed to the vehicle but sent via post as Notice to Owner thereby invalidating this PCN If issued remotely by camera, how was the operator able to identify “permit” attached to windscreen of a vehicle at the time of this alleged contravention which clearly shows low visibility due to darkness PCN issued is not fully compliant with Schedule 4 Protection of Freedom Ac 2012 as section (8)(2)(f) was not mentioned per requirements thereby invalidating any liability as a registered keeper. Please consider this a request to provide if unable to cancel this charge: - The proof of authorisation as claimed on PCN for the alleged location of contravention - The full explanation to questions raised above In all cases, you must include a close up actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date. Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Y. see above 7 Who is the parking company? CPM 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Phoenix Avenue, Greenwich London For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. NO
  8. On appeal to a penalty charge, received email which is as : …….…... and how best to answer this? Can I write back to say as a registered keeper that I'm not required to disclose the driver's details and as you've admitted that PoF2012 is irrelevant in this charge, please do not send any more invoice or correspondence regarding this charge?
  9. Thanks for advice and sorry for late replying. I've searched here for same location and found other posts. For now we've decided follow your advice and we've not even appealed on popla. I'll post once receive any further replies from them.
  10. PCN is attached on first post as SPPCN.pdf. I don't know if this is also a NTK as nowhere in notice are words "Notice to keeper". These are the only 2 letters received so far.
  11. 1) Date of infringement: 19th Jan 2019 2) Date on NTK - Not received but PCN received dated 24th Jan 2019 3) Date received - PCN dated 24th Jan 2019 4) mention of schedule 4 of the POFA 2012[y/n] - Can't see on letter 5) Photographic evident of event - yes, two pics of vehicle from front & rear number plate 6) Have you appealed - yes. 3rd option on PCN. "the driver's purpose on the day of contravention was to do shopping and total spent was £205 on 2 shops for which the receipt is attached. The driver spend times visiting other shops located in the same area. " 7)Parking company - Smart Parking 8 ) Where exactly - Greenwich Shopping Park, Charlton London 9) Appeal body - BPA 10) other correspondence - rejection letter. First post attached
  12. The place is Greenwich shopping park in Charlton London. At the entrance is sign stating max stay of 3hrs on non-match day and 90mins on match day (Charlton FC). It's a free time limited parking space and there are no paying machine to park. On the date of contravention Charlton were at home to Accrington Stanley, so should've been a match day as per parking signs. One of the visiting relative went to do shopping. The shops around the parking area are JD, Matalan, Outfits, boots, Decathlon etc. Overall £205 were spent on JD and Decathlon (receipt). The PCN was received via post, so ANPR but nowhere does it state Notice to keeper nor demand to provide driver's detail. We made an online appeal with just two sentence stating "the driver's purpose on the day of contravention was to do shopping and total spent was £205 on 2 shops for which the receipt is attached. The driver spend times visiting other shops located in the same area. " Rejection letter was also a surprise as thought we'll receive NTK or some kind of form to fill but with POPLA code.
  13. Parking charge received by post on 24th Jan for contravention on 19th Jan for overstaying by 10 mins. As one of the appeal option was : Parking over free period (if you were genuine customer...etc), we made online appeal with copy of receipt. The appeal was written as RK without naming driver nor RK as the driver on the day of contravention. Rejection letter received on 13th Feb with POPLA verification code printed. I don't have knowledge in dealing with private parking firms but seems strange that neither the first letter nor rejection is notice to keeper which I thought is a requirement. Letters are attached in the post and please advise as got another week to respond. Thanks. RPCN.pdf SPPCN.pdf
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