Just a quick update as this company seems to be causing other people issues. I received a good 4-5 letters from various entities telling me that they had kindly doubled the "fine" each time to cover their legal costs and admin costs etc and that I would soon be in court with the judge no doubt awarding them all the fines and some extra costs. Happily after completely ignoring every single one they haven't been in touch since and I havent heard from them in many months now. Treat the scumbags with the contempt they deserve and simply ignore their BS attempts to extort money from you.

Well as it stands I've just bought her a surprise holiday away so puckering up sorted although I dont think she'll ever see this post As for the other she has already told the guy to replace the clutch and is not wanting to bother trying to argue with PUG over the warranty irrespective of the advice. So thank you for your help and again sorry for letting my furstrations get the better of me and being OTT on my posting. I value your input.

Hi sorry my post was, as you will guess, made out of frustration and tbh it's better to rant a little on here and then be able to reply in a more calm and rationale manner elsewhere. So apologies for taking advantage of the forums for a bit of ranting. I don't mind that she got another opinion and it wasnt that the guy could tell it was a duff clutch that bothered me it was the "oh it's wear and tear comment". I know little about vehicle components myself hence coming to you guys but I did think that to diagnose the reason for the problem without even looking was a bit far fetched. Tbh my reply was also tinged with the anger at Peugeot's dealership in the area in the way they have behaved towards my better half as I don't like to think people are taking advantage of her. I certainly did not mean any disrespect to the oily overall wearing community more a rant at the gits in that particular establishment. The second opinion only reinforced her opinion that PUG would not pay a penny and she has had it fixed by the 2nd garage despite my assurances after reading your comments that she had a reasonable chance of persuading PUG to accept a warranty claim. I think it was the dealership garages quote of £300 to investigate + c£700 to fix with no guarantee of getting it back compared to the 2nd garages quote of £340 to fix it incl of everything that made her mind up. Once again sorry for previously ranting a little and I hope I havent offended anyone when at the end of the day you are trying to help out. That wasn't my intent. Thank you for your kind advice.

Well the GF took a rather odd option without telling me today until she'd done it Went into garage, collected car and took it to another garage to diagnose problem. Sat mechanic in car and within a few tens of metres of driving him around without telling him what the problem was he says "that's a worn clutch, its grinding and slipping, definite wear and tear". Now call me a skeptic but a) I doubt she told him nothing but b) how the feck can anyone say definitely what the problem is without even lifting the f*cking bonnet She's now convinced that she's saved herself the £300 bill of having PUG check the clutch out and also that because someone else said wear and tear that she has zero chance of a warranty payout so she's now willing to pay the £700 for a new clutch. Now I am far from a chauvanist but for f*cks sake today wants to make me ban women from going near a garage. Her complete fear of confronting a "mechanic/semi-trained monkey/knuckle draggin con-artist" and arguing has cost her best part of 3/4 of a grand for a car that has barely even started its life cycle. I cannot decide whether I am more angry at PUG dealership for being awkward scheisters in the first place, my gf for believeing that just because someone wears oily overalls they know better than her or the other garage for their "miracle diagnosis" Cheers anyway guys. It's as the saying goes I guess you can take a horse to water but you can't make it listen to common sense if you use a fricking megaphone or something along those lines

I can only hope they look inside and find it's not wear and tear and fix it under warranty but I am skeptical given their behaviour thus far. In terms of suggesting a complaint I take it you are of a mind they will insist its wear and tear but that her only option would be to pay them whatever bill they demand and then try to claim it back through complaining to Peugeot? Have told her to go back in morning, demand a courtesy car (bearing in mind they haven't even looked at the clutch yet, they're just assuming its wear and tear) and then to get them to do their investigation work as soon as they can slot it in. It does sound though from your inference is that if they want to be assholes she'll get stuck with paying a massive bill and then having to argue the toss with some git at Peugeot who is targetted to reduce paying out on claims where possible. Brilliant :-/ Thanks for the replies and will update when I hear tomorrow what happens.

Hi everyone, Am looking for a bit of advice on how to deal with a potential problem I can see looming over the next few days where I suspect Peugeot are going to try and shaft my better half for want of a better phrase. She bought a new Peugeot 207, Manual Gear, (1.4L Petrol I think) in Sept 2007. The car is still under the 3 year manufacturer's warranty that she got with the brand new car upon purchase. The car is used for her daily commute to work c7 miles away and in the 2 1/2 years owned has done just over 12,000 miles in total. She does not normally do any motorway travel at all and having been in the car with her on quite a few occasions now I am able to say comfortably that she doesn't ride the clutch. Odd problem occured 2 weeks ago when she changed into 5th gear from 4th at about 3000 rpm on motorway to come visit me (normally I go to hers) where the engine a second or so after changing gear suddenly shot up to 4000 revs or so then fell back after a few seconds and car subsequently drove normally. Since then the problem has begun to repeat and is quite replicable in terms of get to c2,500-3,000 rpm and change up to 4th and 5th and Voom large over revving and then subsides to normal expected range. There is also a noticeable drop in power now in 5th gear so acceleration is sluggish. Car was taken to Peugeot garage last week where they advised from testing the microchip in the engine they couldnt see a problem and that they'd driven it up and down and to quote "it drove like a dream" despite being told exactly how to replicate the problem. Anyways, girlfriend being admittedly not very knowledgable about the mechanical things in life, accepted the car back on the basis that "if it happens again bring it straight back and we'll give you a courtesy car whilst we fix it." Lo and behold, it happens again and the Car is taken straight back in today to the Peugeot Garage (their first free slot). They are now saying that they believe it to be the gearbox that is at fault, that they will take it out of the car to check but that it is likely to be wear and tear and if so not only is this not covered under the manufacturers warranty that she will have to pay £300 for the cost of them taking the gearbox out but then also any costs involved in replacing which they have said will be about £6-700 + labour. To top it all off they have said there'll be no courtesy car as they think it's wear and tear (bearing in mind they've not even looked yet!!!) and not a defect or manufacturing fault and they may need the car to be kept for a few days to look at the problem. I have told her to bloomin well argue the toss over the courtesy car tomorrow as it's pathetic to offer it one week then suddenly change your mind when you see dollar signs in front of your eyes. Now this seems to me to be a case of "Oh she's a blonde woman" let's just tell her it's wear and tear and we don't have to fork out on a warranty and we can earn a nice wad of folding stuff out of her. Surely a clutch that has done 12,000 miles in 2.5 years from new and that hasn't been abused by some mad clutch riding maniac on steroids should be expected to not wear down to the point it needs replacing??? What are the options she has if the garage do try and wriggle out of the manufacturers warranty as they have indicated will be likely and label this as reasonable wear and tear? Any advice would be most appreciated as I feel pretty gutted for her, she's just spent the last 3 hours in tears at the quoted costs of repairing what is essentially a fairly new car still.

Ha it seems the more I read on here the more and more these guys seem like absolute scheisters that should be run out of town with pitchforks and burning torches a la 1860's justice

Sadly it seems from much of this site that the worst PPC offenders never ever want to go near a court as they would be laughed out of it faster than they charged you in the first place for the mistake of parking your car.

Thank you crem and again thanks to everyone else. I think I'm going to ignore the company and see what happens. It not like I can pay them anyways unless they suddenly were going to accept the £1.80 an from what I've read on these forums there's little chance of receving a reasonable response from the company in question cheers guys I'll sleep a lot easier now

Cheers guys, sort of puts me a little more at ease, was panicking royally about this. The ticket says that repeat offenders will be clamped and will be liable to "higher penalty charges". Whilst I have no intention of ever repeating the incident I assume that they cannot clamp me for simply ignoring this one and returning in future to the same site but paying? I only ask as I'll be back at the hospital soon and i depend on my car daily. It would cost me my livelihood to lose access to it.

I attend a hospital regularly (every 1-2 months) for medical checkups in relation to my diabetes. The hospital charges via PnD machines for the Car parking. I have never once failed to pay the Pay and Display Charges in countless visits. However, after having a bit of a nightmare morning and running very late I rushed out today for my appointments and parked up only to realise I had no money on me at all and no way of paying. I live 30 minutes from the hospital so didn't feel it was wiorthwhile going to get my wallet from home as it would waste the hospitals time massively and i may have my appointments cancelled as was already late I returned to my car to find a very official looking ticket in a sealed yellow and black checkered outlined plastic wrapping. Similar to that style you'd expect if it had come from the police. It is from a company called Central Ticketing Limited in Birmingham. Not wishing to be melodramatic but I'm living from day to day money wise at the moment and just about making sure the mortgage is paid so I physically cannot afford to pay the £35 let alont the £65 if not paid within 14 days nor the £105 if not paid within 7 days of the £65 falling due. By appealing (they say that it will take up to 28 days on the ticket) surely they'll just not only reject my appeal being the same company that is demanding my money but then immediately demand the £105 and take me to court. My anger at this is not that I simply don't think people should pay for parking (although paying for hospital parking is another damned matter imho) it's that I have been penalised for what seems an exhorbitant amount of money compared to the £1.80 parking fee it should have been for the time i was there and that if not paid within a very short amount of time it escalates alarmingly especially when I have paid repeatedly for every single other visit and this was a one off. Can anyone offer any advice as to what I should do as I'm scared not to pay them but I simply have no means to pay them either. I just about afford to pay the bills and get to work. as it is. There are multiple small car parks at the hospital and there was a large sign situated outside of the disabled spots ((separate car park area) I haven't been back to read the sign but I'm guessing it covers everythign such as park here and we own your vehicle, your soul and first born) but where I parked simply said Visitor Car Park Pay and Display with no conditions on it although the grey back of the larger sign can be seen from where I parked.