hi there, sorry i should have explained further. in line with statutory requirements, the LA should have sent a number of documents to PATAS BUT THEY DIDNT!!! hahaha nice technicality!

due to a technicality the PCN was waived! thank you all for the information as it did help. much appreciated

thank you ray kay for the information. good to know for the future!!

thanks for the clarification raykay. do you know if there is a way to prove the car is still a PLG in old money?

Hi Conniff Thats what I thought but I just checked and mine just says "PC" (probably private car). I bought mine online too, so no idea why it could be different! Thanks for letting me know though.

hi there. thanks for the reply;) i had a look at the V5C and I cant see TC11 on it It has RC32, 02, P, M1 under vehicle category etc but I cant see TC11 anywhere where would it be on the form? as i am being stupid! also, on the tax disc it doesnt say PLG the DVLA said they abolished PLG on cars after 2001/04 as they would clarsify by Co2 emission any ideas on where it says it on the V5C? cheers

Hi all you may have seen my previous post re: recent PCN received for parking in a "goods vehicle loading only" bay. many of you have been kind enough to suggest that my car (BMW Mini) is a PLG:) as the sign did not say "commercial 'good vehicle loading only'", I should be able to argue that a Mini is 'Private Lights Goods Vehicle" and therefore falls within the definition. I have my PATAS case tomorrow morning. could anyone point me in the right direction for any cases that i could cite to the adjudicator? the problem i have is that on the V5 it is just a "private car":( i called the DVLA today, and they said for cars since 2001, they scrapped the PLG status and now just clasify them by CO2 emission. any help please, i have to find evidence before 9.30 on sat. many thanks in advance.

sorry being stupid! you are absolutely right!! thank you i may take this to the PATAS option would anyone have any case names i could take to them? cheers http://share.shutterfly.com/share/received/detail.sfly?imageIndex=0&sid=8AbuWrZi1cNGez&fid=8ef550f97d2e7c4f0031ecd658bfd733

i think i have a case, in that i was unloading the issue is that it said "good vehicles only", which as you point out is not the case on V5 do you know how i can upload photos?

hi all, i at PATAS this sat, and thinking of just paying the damn ticket off. the sign did say "good vehicle only" since i was in a mini, i have a feeling i will not be able to contradict the council. what do you all think? many thanks sorry some of you asked for pictures. please could you let me know how i can do that?

no records, as it was something i needed to drop off the box was heavy but small enough to fit into a mini! i did suggest they were not compliant, and they wrote back that there were compliant with Directive 2002? are they just trying to call my bluff? this is the thing that might have me. by stating "commercial vehicle only" - do you think they are covered? i have gone beyond the 14 days, so now it is £100 so i will i might go to PATAS with it in the past, they have dropped it (when i got my last ticket as they "said" they put up a suspension bay, but they didnt. when i send i would go to PATAS they dropped it)

hi there. i am a little confused, as some say the mini is a PLG vehicle but if i was loading something, then i could say it was a good vehicle what do people think i was unloading a box and some keys. however, i did neither as the estate agents was shut. all i did was park the car, grab the keys from the boot, go and see the estate agent was closed, so got back in the car, and drove off. this can all be seen in the CCTV footage. maybe a matter of 2 mins if that. do you think i could justify that i am classed as a good vehicle? cheers

ok, thank you for the welcome and confirmation i was ok to add this thread. cheers

i am sorry what do you mean by the 1st paragraph? (i am new to this site) should i move it elsewhere? documents received - a ticket in the post (via CCTV), then i appealed stating that i was delivering goods and alleging the bay is too narrow, and this followed a notice of rejection which now gives me 28 days to appeal (or 14 days to pay at reduced rate) thanks for replying so soon any tips are appreciated also, do let me know if i should move this thread. cheers

hi all i am just after some advice. i received a parking ticket when i parked in a "goods vehicles loading only" bay. i drive a mini. i was dropping some things off at a local estate agent and not shopping. it was parked on linden gardens, chiswick. i thought that as it was a loading bay, parking would be permitted. however, i received a ticket as according to their records - "23 parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle" do you all think i could justify that i was using it as a loading bay? many thanks in advance