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Was he there both times - two hours apart? And were they both at exactly the same location?
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2 PCN before receiving permits in the post
Tony P replied to mugsymo's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
When you say "PCN" do you mean "Penalty Charge Notice" which means it is a Local Authority matter or, as seems more likely from what you say, is it a "Parking Charge Notice" dressed up to look like a Local Authority one to scare you. If the latter, Admin will move this thread to Private Land Parking forums where you will get appropriate advice. -
I wonder if this £49.95 is just an Admin Charge made by the Car Rental firm for dealing with a Notice to Keeper they received for a date within the hire period. Rental contracts usually provide for making such a charge for going through their records and supplying Hirer/Driver information - to avoid their own penalty for failing to comply with a NtoK Usually these Admin Charges are recovered from the Hirer via Credit Card information held as security but in the absence of that maybe they are getting UKPC to collect their Admin Charge. This would have nothing to do with paying TfL for the actual PCN.
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@morrisons Parking eye & equita
Tony P replied to lills66's topic in Private Land Parking Enforcement
Credit Card or Bank Card statement showing the purchase? -
CCTV monitoring of yellow box junctions
Tony P replied to etoc2001's topic in Local Authority Parking and Traffic Offences
I don't follow this. If there is a sufficient space beyond the box, would not the vehicle with priority be expected to move, or continue moving, forward to occupy it? (Politeness apart!) Otherwise it would be a 'free for all' within the box as vehicles having entered from differing directions compete for the limited available space just beyond it, or leaving the vehicle without priority still waiting. -
Why has Prankster not mentioned this petition? Surely that would generate more 'followers' signatures.
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And I have heard they will not accept photocopies of the old one (that was sent back) as proof of entitlements they failed to carry forward to the new one!
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My current passport is for more than 10 years (I got the overlap periods transferred forward). Being over 70, I have to renew the photocard every 3 years. So they will potentially use the same passport photo 4 times!
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Alleged speed on nip has changed??
Tony P replied to MUTLEY1974's topic in Speeding and Motoring Offences
Do you mean "I" instead of "she"? Could the second NIP be for a different time? -
I may be missing something but it seems to me that if you are being summonsed for no insurance on a specific date (6 October) you plead Not Guilty on the basis that on that date insurance was not required as the vehicle was under SORN. And as evidence, produce to the Court the DVLA letter stating the SORN commenced from 11 September (take several photocopies for the Clerk and each of the Magistrates), adding it's status remained unchanged on 6 October. The fact the letter confirming the SORN commenced 11 September was itself dated after 6 October should be an irrelevant distraction. Irrespective of the letter's date, it is confirming DVLA's acceptance it was SORN from 11 September. End of matter! It is difficult to get DVLA to understand or accept they made an error, so trying to explain to them at this stage is generally useless. They may be interested in settling at the Court room door if they see/hear your defence (not that you are obliged to do this). If you plead Not Guilty and the Magistrates accept this, don't forget to ask for your own costs - and let us know!
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incorrect Dart Charge PCN & Enterprise Admin fee
Tony P replied to bentilley's topic in Speeding and Motoring Offences
A consequence of Dart's error. If they don't accept this, armed with their acceptance the cancellation of the charge due to their mistake I would threaten a County Court claim - and if they refuse to settle, follow it through. -
In case the OP is unaware, there is a lengthy discussion on this topic on this current thread where that OP is in a similar situation as here. http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?453436-Driving-No-Insurance
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Or leave
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If trying to negotiate an out of Court settlement, bear in mind that DVLA have a great incentive to settle as they would receive all of the settlement. If it goes to Court, a fine goes into Government central funds, not DVLA who can only claim actual costs.
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And they won't attempt to contact those who paid under duress, despite having their identity and details - only saying they will deal with submitted claims. Anything to hold on to the ill-gotten cash!
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I fail to see how this can work. Apart from having no powers (as Andydd above), who is the DCA going to chase? The Owner (who has not been served with an NtoO) or the Registered Keeper (ditto) or the Driver (who may have received a PCN on the vehicle, but only becomes liable if his identity is disclosed following an NtoO to the RK). This presupposes a similar set-up for vehicle registration/ownership AND that it can be accessed by private firms.
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I recently visited UK in a foreign, non-EU, registered car. Knowing the UK parking rules fairly well we deliberately chose an unsigned parking bay in a Controlled Zone (I know from long experience, including past Appeal successes, there had never been a sign on that bay). The CEO issued the PCN and then walked down the street, past dropped kerb and several metres of yellow line, to photograph a sign at a different bay further along the road to 'support' his knowingly fraudulently wrong statement (assuming he was properly trained before being 'released' on the public). That is irrelevant to the thread but explains background. What may be relevant to this thread is that the CEO's PCN machine appeared totally incapable of coping as the PCN only showed 8 of the complete 12 digits of the Registration Plate - totally missing the Country Identifier (necessary, as it is part of a federation of republics and other states) and the full code for the registration region (there are several hundred of such codes covering nearly 100 different registration authorities within the specific country alone). Another difficulty is the registration contained some 'Cyrillic' letters which, although resembling some 'Latin' letters, are completely different in sound, computer and keyboard recognition. Oh dear! Good luck to the DCA in serving a 'Notice to Owner' to determine the Driver - who will no doubt appeal the PCN was invalid and the car correctly parked according to the signage (or lack of)!
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Also If the insurers 'wrote off' the vehicle would they not have demanded the V5C (probably along with MOT) as part of their salvage?
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DVLA being notified after car being written off by insurance
Tony P replied to mrsmushroom's topic in DVLA
As DVLA still consider the OP to be the Registered Keeper it might be an idea for her to SORN the car while the 'transfer' is resolved. Apart from getting back any unexpired tax, it will avoid DVLA penalties for tax and/or insurance. -
Court of Appeal Listing for tomorrow. 3rd matter. https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/court-lists/list-appeal-civil
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2 speeding notices for same stretch of road
Tony P replied to ianshearin's topic in Speeding and Motoring Offences
Irrespective of a potentially higher penalty at Court, they will then automatically add £20.00 Victim Surcharge to it - twice over by the sounds of it as there would be two victimless 'crime' cases, even if heard together. -
Due care and attention - as in the first line?
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Sounds a nightmare. Good on your Son for having a concerned Mum! My guess (and that's what it is) - The car was not damaged in or resulting from any alleged illegal act, but some significant time after and following transfer of control. In surrendering the keys to the police (on their orders) your Son can no longer be deemed to have any control or responsibility over it. Therefore the damage occurred while the vehicle was completely in Police care and control. Others will help with the way forward on the car damage matter, but you may have to apply some formal pressure.
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OK - I would write to DVLA once (Special Delivery to get a proper signature) telling them to check their incoming and outgoing mail as I not only informed them but they confirmed it. Then let DVLA do all the running about trying to find it. You have done your bit and, after all, DVLA is a multi million pound government organization with state of the art 'Big Brother' technology' checking on everyone, and now trying to bully the OP into paying for their own inefficiencies. Then go to Court as my previous post, having pre-warned the local and regional press.
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What may be missed is that the car was (by the sounds of it) on a public road with a defective tyre. I may be wrong but that is probably an offence on its own, irrespective if the car was being driven or not. If it cannot be determined if the last Driver (the OP the day before) used it in that condition would not the RK (presumably also the OP) be liable? But I agree GTSTL, of all the cars 'parked outside' why would they take the time to look closely at this one?
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