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  1. Is it a bill for a two year loss of contract? If so, no one can force a contract of more than a year on anyone. It is unlawful. And if you have cancelled a contract because, for example, 'customer care' treated you shoddily, wasn't up to what would be expected, then it is your Statutory Right to reject a contract even though the 7 days (by god they lobbied and knocked that down!) has passed- a lot of Distance Sellers (google Consumer Protection (Distance Selling ) Act, 2000 it is eay to read and get on top of your Statutory Rights : and it is criminal offence to attempt to undermine to negate a statutory right.
  2. Rayne, nobody (not even the Queen or Prime Minister) is allowed to take money from your bank account without first telling you, and against a contract you have signed and accepted. To do so, without your knowledge, expectation or consent is a criminal cotravention of the Theft Act (1968, and later ammendments) and punishable by up to 10 years in prison plus a fine - criminals can have their ill-gotten gains confiscated. Andrew Dollamore sold out to the firm that put him on the road to infamy, fasthosts.co.uk, some 2 years ago, and fasthosts is owned by Allied Internet AG ( mostly owned by Ralph Dommermuth, the iGerman internet billionaire. Google 'streamline.net , legal' and then, of the many forums, click on 'vinylonthe.net' You will see the empty stable block that used to be Mr Dollamore's jibe and ploy, and my letters that threatened to put the whole shebang of conmen inside. After reading same please tell us on this forum whether or not you have sufficient info to hang all these twats out with the washing at one of Her Majesty's establishments for the re-education of nasties
  3. Paullittle, point the terms of their licence out to them - only able to ask for a nominal £5 AFTER 6 months of efforts to provide an acceptable loan - and ask for your £5 back or you will challenge their right to have a Brokers Licence with the Office of Fair Trading.
  4. Reef 10, in asking you for money upfront they contravene the licence issued to them by The Office of Fair Trading (OFT) - they are only able to take a nominal £5 off you after six months of failing to obtain you a loan on terms you find acceptable. As you see from all the postings above, they have no intention of finding you a loan, but are genuinely trying to rip you off for an unlawfully requested upfront fee. You have done the right thing in threatening them, and should have your money back soon - they operate in the belief that anyone who does not know that an upfront fee is unlawful is mugable. Obviously you are not . Let the forum know if you do not get your money back by the deadline you gave and I will give you all the information you need to make sure you indict them for fraud, and with the assistance of the Chief Constable on who's manor they [problem]
  5. Paullittle, that's the way to do it!!! These people know that from the moment the Chief Constable is told of the presence of such people on his patch will be the beginning of the end for them. Well done Paul
  6. Huggy Bear, if they have taken money without having first provided you with access to a loan on terms you find acceptable then their licence dictates that they cannot in six months time ask you for more than a nominal £5 - certainly not now, certainly not £59, and certainly not until you have agreed to the acceptable loan! To say that they have a loan in mind for you as a means of your paying (quite wrongfully) them money is DECEPTION Taking money from another by DECEPTION is a CONTRAVENTION of The Theft Act and punishable by up to 10 years in prison plus a fine. I believe your simply mentioning the above two lines will get you your money back rather quickly. If not, let the forum know, but also ask The Chief Constable responsible for the county in which Gravesend stands to help you indict for fraudulent theft.
  7. Orion, you go get the buggers!! This POS take puts this company and those like it in a new league - they are not just ignoring their licence conditions , but proving irrefutably that they are in this game for the [problem], and certainly not to become more and more competent brokers.
  8. Pretz, they must have tried for 6 months to provide you with a suitable loan to be able to claim the nominal fee of £5 dictated by law. They did not try - have you had any possibly acceptable offers? - and six months has not passed - theoretically they shouldstill be looking to fulfil your need, andvisibly so by providing offers from legitimate finance houses. They are in business to take money wrongfully in a contravention of their licence conditions. A lot if they can getaway with it, but £5 will do if they cannot get away with it. Ask them for your £5 back and which they can have returned after 6 months given offers are provided in the interim. I think you should threaten their licence to get it!
  9. Pretz, their Terms and Conditions are written in law - no company genuinely offering a broker service should ask for an upfront fee . What the law they sign up to to get a broker's licence state, is that it is only after 6 months of failure to find a customer a loan that suits can a company ask ask for a nominal £5 sum. Any company that asks for and takes an upfront fee is contravening the law that relates to their having and keeping a licence, and The Office of Fair Trading as issuer of the licence can take Wentworth Finance licence off them. Threaten Wentworth Finance with contesting their licence with The OFT and the speed of return of your money should rattle the bank vault doors. If they took money from your account in a manner that was unexpected and surprised you (their usual trick) then they are contravening The Theft Act and could do up to 10 years in prison if you are willing to ask the Chief Constable of the area the head office is in to assist you in indicting them for contravention of The Theft Act. Threatening them with this course of action forced the return of money to a previous victim who contacted me, a sum returned that included the bank charges suffered when he was thrown into overdraft with subsequent bank charges - the company had no option but to pay up or they would have been indicted, with the assistance of the Chief Constable of course.
  10. Scott B, the point being that if you do read the T&Cs and then still apply, it is obvious to them that you do not know the relevant law. And that is why they pass people onto another scambag (probably a front for themselves anyway, who knows?) who scams for another £30
  11. Scott B, You think? [Go to page 2 of this forum and see my posting to Iclesamus and the unrelated Wentworth Financial Services]
  12. Scott B, In DEMANDING an upfront payment for their brokerage services Wentworth Finance act unlawfully : the licence issued to them by the Office of Fair Trading limits brokers to a nominal £5 sum for administrative costs, but ONLY after a failure to obtain an offer acceptable to you AFTER SIX MONTHS. They play on the desperation of the consumer to perpetrate a deception : namely, that what they are doing in asking for an upfront fee is a legitimate act when it is in fact unlawful. And Wentworth have not done this accidentally, but it is a permanent activity by the company, the company's actual 'business model' - it is what they do! In TAKING an unlawfully obtained fee from an account, whether or not they tell the customer, they perpetrate a deception on the consumer, and to take money by deception is a direct contravention of The Theft Act and punishable by up to 10 years in prison. And it is therefore a contravention of the direct debit agreement. And any abuse of the direct debit agreement is grounds for a refund from the consumer's bank. If instances are reported to The Office of Fair Trading the companyshould have their licence to legally advertise as a broker withdrawn by the Office of Fair Trading.
  13. Hello the house! It is a contravention of The Theft Act (1996, and later amendments) to debit a bank account and credit one's own without the account holder's knowledge, expectation, or permission, and is punishable by up to ten years in prison. I have found companies repond to this titbit of knowledge by suddenly seeing the issue my way. Google The Theft Act (the current government has put the laws online in a very accessible manner)- you can become as expert as anyone, given the pressure of needing a result. Companies would much prefer we stayed ignorant of such matters.
  14. Brilliant Jerry, and Phenomenal Medal for sharing your research findings. I did find the registrant of the site to be Mr Bart Croughs while it remained on 'Whois', but that is now difficult to validate as registration has been switched to a proxy.
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