Hi Jobmid,

 

The info received from them is just a copy of a signed and dated application form.

They have stamped it and a signature of sorts is over the stamp - this may just be a recived or an application approved stamp as opposed to anything else!

I have not seen a CCA at all, but the form does shwo that I asked for PPI & communications with them have also confirmed this.

 

I queried the USA Versus UK law and said as you are here in the UK you are bound by UK Law and the response was, well we are bound by and operate under both UK and USA Laws..........I thought bo****ks to that one, UK law prevails in the UK.

 

They are just trying to hide behind & confuse us with this American twaddle.

 

I have fired off al the usual CAG templates to them including write to me dont call me letter.

I have formally complained about two of their people offering me "pay us less now and borrow the money elsewhere deals" but so far the person to whom the last complaint was sent has not replied.

This of course may be because they know they are in the wrong and so they are trying a different approach to me.

 

All I have had is a letter that regretfully, calls are not all recirded so it is impossible to confirm the complaint...........yeah right, i'm stupid enough to swallow that one!

Shame they only record calls that they might find useful, any others are wiped, sorry not recorded.

 

Cloggy.

they are talking drivle as usual. i think its time you start recording your calls and if they call do not answer any of thier security questions. They are only bound by UK law as they have been issued a credit licence in the UK. Their treat monkeys will say anything. fire off the cca request dont sign anything also again request a final letter regarding the ppi as you need to complain about this to them

Well MBNA's treat monkeys love to say they are bound by american law which if they were they would be in even more trouble with the law than they are here. They are bound by english law as they are based in chester.

Could you post a copy of the cca you recived with your personal details removed as there is a chance the it might be not enforcable. Do not deal with them over the phone send the template letter that says all dealings should be in written format only as they are harassing you over the phone.

Also request in writing for a final letter with regards to the ppi so you can take your case to the fsa. Good luck and if you need any help let me know.

well if the dont have a cca then the debt can not be enforced. MBNA have gone all quite on me since the ombudsman stepped in its been a few months now since I have heard a peep out of them they used to call daily from a private number and I then stoped answering private numbers which led to problems as my job would call me from a private number or if

i had been looking for a new job then all those calls came from private numbers

That was NOT my point. If enough people all got together and complained EN MASSE to say the FSA, FO, OFCOM (yes for misuse of telephones) Banking Standards then something WILL be done.

 

It doesn't matter if the debts are sold on, this is about putting ALL MBNA employees on the dole, where people like them belong. Let's see how they like it when THEY get harassed for being in debt! :mad:.

 

All it takes is a flood of letters ALL about the same thing and action will be taken.

dont get me wrong i am also plagued my this bunch of wasters they do need to get taken down i have a complaint in the the ombudsman at present the funny thing is they were told to hault all action by the ombudsman but after been ordered to do this they sold my account to a dca and when the dca heard this they passed it straight back to mbna. the ombudsman is now looking to punish them shows how stupid mbna are

I see SO many people on this forum who, like myself have problems with the bunch of retards at MBNA, but no one actually seems to be making any REAL progress (one voice shouting in the storm etc) therefor I propose this;

 

If YOU are GENUINELY interested in ridding the world of these muppets, PM me. I am proposing a petition to the government to have MBNA's credit license removed. This would shut them down in the UK. With any luck, they are so disorganised, all debts would be written off!

 

We could do them enough damage in the press too, and them government may even begin to question their methods and instigate their own investigation.

 

I'll set up a link at YouGov if there's enough people reply to this thread.

 

SPREAD THE WORD

whist it would be nice i think the debts would be passed on to another bank as was in the case of northern rock where the co-op took over their credit cards mbna would just simply sell all the debts to another bank or dca

well my case it the the ombudsman now and they even admitted to the ombudsman during the investiation they sold the debt the a dca when the ombudsman told them to put all actions on hold pending the investigation they are now in trouble the the ombudsman and the ombudsman is coming down hard on them

Jobs @ Jobsite: Debt Collector

just seen this one

NEED A 2ND INCOME P/T DEBT COLLECTORS required car and telephone essential. Call Nigel on 07966 961479 email [email protected]

there just antoher desk in a ist crudit office who will send you more drival. until they comply with your cca request and give you a true signed copy then they cant do anything they can huff and puff all they like.

also how old is this debt when did you take it out and when was the last payment on it?

the only way you can get those letters stopped is to go your local royal mail dorting office and tell them this person does not live at your address then when a letter reaches the sorting office it gets returned and not delivered to your house. This is what I did and it worked.

Well I've just sent the made up OTHER letter back to the **** it came from, hopefully that should be the end of that, and a cca request regarding the other alleged debt against myself.

it wont be though they ignore all returned mail i had this problem at my old address that lowell kept sending letters for people who used to live there years ago i kept returning them in the end i ended up filing them under "bin"

well atkiv krap tried this on with me also glad they got stung

I have just seen a new promo video for a dca i know fuzzy will love this one Premiere Credit there an american dca and goes on about sharks well we all know what sharks dca's are.

im not so sure about this one everthing looks to be there to me it looks enforcable but i am not 100% sure on this the apr is quoted the newer cca's are more watertight than the old ones it seems you have one of the new ones as the data is 2007 on it hopefully someone else can offer a second opinion on this

very hard to ready anything in that cca is that how they sent it to you?

they could be anyone calling i would not pay anything until you get something in writing even when they do that you need to request a copy of the cca and a deed of assigment. Like whats to spot me from calling you predending you have a debt and to ask for immediate payment.

arnt TNT a parcel company? Welcome to TNT

you should not have sent a cheque as they can knock up a fake cca with the signature

Brilliant piece Fuzzy and I like your style Jobmid

 

Barclaycard are my thorn at the mo - they really do not like it when I tell them to read the stop harrass letter which they signed for on 17/02

 

I've started to ask them to hang on and I'll get the person they want to speak to and just put the phone under my bottom. I do go back every now and again to see if they are still there, but they tend to hang on for about 5 mins then give up

Cheers for that. there is nothing like calling a good dca and getting the most silly person at the end of the call AIB have now told me that they listened to the telephone recording and have asked global debt recovery to sack the agent another win for cag one less treat money to call you

if its 7 years old then its statue barred if there has been no payments in the past 6 years they are not allowed to collect on this debt dont send the cca request send this letter

1 High Street,

Newtown,

Kent

R21 4RH

 

June 28, 2006

 

 

The Loan Company

Company House,

Church Street,

Newtown,

Kent,

R1 7HG

 

 

Dear Sir/Madam

 

Acc/Ref No 4563210025897412

 

You have contacted us regarding the account with the above reference number, which you claim is owed by ourselves.

 

We would point out that under the Limitation Act 1980 Section 5 “an action founded on simple contract shall not be brought after the expiration of six years from the date on which the cause of action accrued.”

 

We would also point out that the OFT say under their Debt Collection Guidance on statute barred debt that “it is unfair to pursue the debt if the debtor has heard nothing from the creditor during the relevant limitation period”.

 

The last payment of this alleged debt was made over six years ago and no further acknowledgement or payment has been made since that time. Unless you can provide evidence of payment or written contact from us in the relevant period under Section 5 of the Limitation Act, we suggest that you are no longer able to take any court action against us to recover the alleged amount claimed.

 

The OFT Debt Collection Guidance states further that “continuing to press for payment after a debtor has stated that they will not be paying a debt because it is statute barred could amount to harassment contrary to section 40 (1) of the Administration of Justice Act 1970”.

 

We await your written confirmation that this matter is now closed and that no further contact will be made concerning the above account after that last letter.

 

We look forward to your reply.

 

Yours faithfully

Mr A N Other

Print Your Name do not sign

you wil proberly get some silly letters to call them dont do this dont ever speak to them on the phone

also send this one as well to stop the calls

Your Street

Town

City

Postcode

DATE HERE

Company Name

Road

Town

City / County

Postcode

 

 

Dear Sirs

Harassment by telephone

 

FORMAL COMPLAINT UNDER THE CONSUMER CREDIT ACT 2006 COMPLAINTS PROCEDURE

 

Account Number: XXXXXXX

 

I am writing in relation to the quantity and frequency of telephone calls that I have received from your company, which I deem to be personally harassing.

 

I have verbally requested that these stop, but I am still receiving calls. (Delete if necessary)

 

I now require all further correspondence from your company to be made in writing only.

 

I am of the view that your continued harassment of me by telephone puts you in breach of Section 40 of the Administration of Justice Act 1970, and the Protection from Harassment Act 1997.

 

If you continue to harass me by telephone, you will also be in breach of the Communications Act (2003) s.127 and I will report you to OFCOM, Trading Standards and The Office of Fair Trading, meaning that you will be liable to a substantial fine.

 

Please treat this also as a formal complaint, and send me a copy of your company complaints procedure.

 

Be advised that any further telephone calls from your company will be recorded. (**Even if you don‘t yet have recording equipment!!**)

 

Yours faithfully,

 

 

[NAME HERE] (type don't sign)

Aktiv Krap are just that c**p they seem like the leeds loosers to buy up statue barred debt then try to collect on something they have no right to in the first place.

alf i am so sorry to hear about your friends passing i hope MBNA burn in hell. My own battle with MBNA is under way they have no cca i hope your friend is watching from heaven laughing when anyone who wins a case against MBNA

i had a funny one 2 weeks ago with global debt recovery:

really grump agent answered

me: i spoke to the bank and they have not passed the debtto yourselfs

them: they have told us to sue you

me: i am not going to take treats from you

them: i have not

me: you have just made a treat of sueing me

them: sueing is not a treat mr the bank is telling me thay you owe them money and you wont pay them back

me: may i say something:

them: no i dont want to speak to you good day

me: i will keep calling back

them:your harassing tactics are not going to work (they must get alot og us Caggers on the phone:D) the conversation is not you shouting at me (at no point did i raise my voice to him)

me: you are not listining to me

them: i dont want to listen to you what you are saying is complete nonsence the bank has not told you anything of the kind

me: well they have and i read out the number of the bank and told him i spoke to them before calling him

them: you have taken money from a bank

me: where is the deed of assigment? the bank have told me they have not passed this to collections what would you do if someone contacts you out of the blue asking for money?

them: i am not prepaired to contine the conversation

me: can i speak to your manager

them: i am the manager

me: i am going to refer this to the credit services assoscation, the fos, trading standards and my solisitors oh and i forgot the OFT this is telephone harassment

them: i did not harass you

me: i think you have and you are contiuning to do it as we speak

them: dont intruput me again you are lying

me: that is unture and i have a telephone recoring of that telephone conversation and this one also

them: listen this is how a converation works what normally happens when you have a converation with someone is you wait until there is a pause in the conversation (he was getting very ratty at this point) or you wait until its clear that the other person has finshed speaking (wow a dca knows how conversations work pity he didnt take his own advice as i could not get a word in edge ways they dont like been put in thier place) please send me an email as i dont want to speak to you

me: thats funny as you have blocked me from emailing you i have an email confimring you blocked my email address

him: do you not know how to send an email

me: tell i am a I.T techition by trade so what do you think?

him: no you havent you have just made that up as well we have not blocked you thats rubbish and a lie

me: i go on and explain how a microsoft exhange server works and how you can block emails from certin address using exchange

him: thats unture you can do that (silly idiot i do it every day to stop spam coming in on my clients servers) do you not know how to send an email maybe you should ask somebody who knows to show you how

me: will you stop raising you voice

him: you have interuppred me

me: well during a conversation if someone is telling lies and been abusive then its normal for someone to but in and corrtect the untruth the term is heckling

him: how dare you (starting to shout down the phone i think his blood pressure must have been boiling at this stage or he needed more cheap cider)

conversationg goes on and one like this for 25 mins at the end of which i think i heard him tumping the desk even when i offered him payment he would not take it he said i am going to sue you and me saying not without a deed of assigment or any papers to back it up you wont i heart was racing at then end of the call but i never raised my voice to him i sent the cd off to the bank and they were socked. i have also sent it to my solisitor on friday to get rid of this dca as the debt has now been paid with the bank

is there anything on the back of this? this is just an application form and not a cca the font is very difficult to read i belive that this is not a valid cca asi cant see any apr or signature of the creditor others might say diffrent but this cca in my opinion is not valid

who is the dca who is chasing you? remember when you send your request for your cca print your name do not sign it dca's love to use thier cut and paste "skills" to knock a fake credit agreement

i just singed global debt recovery up to many spam sites i hope they enjoy it if anyone knows any more sites you can sign they up to heres their email address [email protected]

contiune your payments then after 10 working days of them reciving their cca request you can stop paying them