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  1. Can PPi be reclaimed on a endowment mortgage my mum has been paying it for over 20 yrs?? Also would she claim the full amount or just the last 6yrs? Any links or advice would be appreciated. many thanks in advance
  2. I am sure many people don't care about this may be the end of free banking, i don't. Nothing's free anyway we all know that! Some people may not like it they can always put there money under the bed if they want. Just my view, i bet if you did a poll on this site most wouldn't mind if they got refunded and had to pay a monthly fee. It would be cheaper for them. It does cost the banks to run our accounts so we should expect to pay a fee for that. It would then be honest and legal which is the point of the whole bank charges argument.
  3. I have read your thread and i guess it was to be expected so close to the court date. But only 6 days to go then at least it has started however long it takes to come to an end I hope as Alec says they may come to a agreement on the 11th hour fingers crossed!!!!
  4. This is unbelivable, no conclusion until May??? Is this set in stone? why would it take 4 months to set the judgement?? I guess April passes the only thing i can think of. Is it common for a verdict to take this long? If the court case goes ahead can the banks cut a deal with the OFT while the judgement is waiting to be set? The crazy thing is, the Banks say the UTCCR's do not apply to current accounts. So we should all be able to claim the charges back like with a bussiness acount leaving out the UTCCR's in the 14 day letter. Anyway 9 days to go!!!
  5. Hi i thought we could have a countdown to the court case as i guess the site is going to be busy with posts once the court case starts 7 days to go!!! Feels like being a kid again waitning for christmas morning.
  6. Bit of a bummer the findings are not going to be published, but from my readings of the counter claim at least the OFT seem to be doing a good job and have all angles covered. So at leat they are getting one thing right!!
  7. Hi thank you for the post I am actually looking for people who have received the same letter so we can gather information for a member who will be complaining to the FSA when he goes to see them. Sorry not enough info on my first post. So anyone who has received the same letter please leave a message. Thanks
  8. To any members who have received a letter from Barclays saying no to Financial Hardship. the letter will have a paragraph saying this. "i belive our obligations under the banking code may inadvertently have been misrepresented in the media and elsewhere. I apologise if you have received the impression that your financial hardship complaint is an alternative to your bank charges complaint as a methord of obtaining a refund of fees (and consiqently avoiding the current deferment arrangements)" This is a standard letter refusing to refund any hardship claims they are starting to arrive now. The letter is a clear breach of the waiver conditions and maybe the best proof that the banks are breaking the agreement to date. Please can any members leave a message if they have received this letter.
  9. "Excellent news - we will wait - ours is a limited company by the way:wink:" It was a sole trader not a limited company. But Natwest say they are sending offers to all bus claims and they are for the full amount!!!! I know it is a bit late for some people who have gone through the courts but i think all bus claims are best waiting the 8 weeks unless with Lloyds who are rejecting claims as ever. When you call Natwest they now have Press 1 for personal accounts Press 2 for business accounts So they have set up a dept just for the business claims, just keep calling them to make sure they have the complaint and keep calling to let them know the 8 weeks is coming to an end as they were a few days over the 8 weeks.
  10. A friend of mine has just recently received £15k back from Natwest!!!! Without court action, he just waited the 8 weeks and got a full offer!!!! So i would recomend any Natwest & RBS as same bank to hold fire with issuing court claims as you will prob be waiting longer for your money and it could get stayed. So i think it is worth giving them the 8 weeks and save any probs that may occur. Just thought i would let you all know!!!!
  11. Funny enough a freind of mine has a work mate who has just got as response back from barclays i don't know him to well so couldn't really ask for a copy so i wrote down i paragraph which is very intresting Quote "i belive our obligations under the banking code may inadvertently have been misrepresented in the media and elsewhere. I apologise if you have received the impression that your financial hardship complaint is an alternative to your bank charges complaint as a methord of obtaining a refund of fees (and consiqently avoiding the current deferment arrangements)" It also said "I wish to make it clear at the outset that you should not expect our proposals to include an offer of refund the bank charges you have incurred" Then just dribbled on and said a member of the debt managment team will call him to see what the can do for him ie seeing CAB etc etc. But looks like they are not going to be refunding any fees for financial hardship for anyone as this was a standard letter and i bet many Barclays members will be getting the same letters through now, it doesnt say its a final response but does say you can go to the ombudsman if you are not happy. It will be nice to see when the OFT asks barclays how many financial hardship claims you have refunded and they say NONE!!!! I Am sure what they are saying is a very strong statement as they are clearly saying they do not need to refund any charges because of financial hardship. So who is doing the misrepresentaition the Banks or the OFT???? If this is true then the waiver should not have included the financial hardship rule, it should of said they will still deal with hardship case's but will not have to refund any charges just pass you onto a debt management team member. It will be intresting to see some views of the Alecm?? sorry bud, and CRFX250 etc on this I told him to go to the ombudsman and also make a complaint to the FSA.
  12. Yes it is a good possibility but i think it is more to do with the defence entered by the banks as it was only after the defence was submitted they changed the POC's. When you read the first POC's then 1 of the banks defence as they are all similar then read the new POC's you can see a strong maybe aggresive tone in the new POC's, which is good for us as it shows that maybe they are on our side!!! I think the next important step is when the OFT publish its findings in December and just hope they do not delay it again!!. Then the balls over in the banks court and hopefuly they will of already planned a way out agreeing a lower charge. It also seems that the test case in Jan is just phase 1 so they will be setting anther court date after this to find out if the charges are a penalty or not. So it looks like the waiver will still be in place even if the OFT wins phase 1 of the court case. But yes hopefully the banks will come to an agreement with the OFT before the end of the year!!!!!
  13. Techspace If you have a claim for financial hardship and they have said this in reply to you. Then make a complaint to the FSA as they are not keeping to conditions of the waiver. The waiver clearly states that banks must filter through hardhip cases and deal with them!!! Again i would ask them for a copy of this booklet and also to put in writing what they are saying about the Hardship rule being misleading. NO IF'S OR BUT'S, if this is what they are saying to you it is a LIE!!!!!
  14. Great news that they have arrived, Just at a quick read through the defences they all seen to be aimed at the same points They are not a penalty They are in plain intangible language They are not a beach of contract They are in the main terms of the contact From all the county court claims the banks know the above is wrong or they would of used this defence and defended every claim not spend 500 million or what the amount they have paid out. They all have the "good faith" in the counterclaims as well? When you read the OFT's POC 2, in my opinion they seem to be very strongly, aggressively not sure of the word i would use making it clear that the defences are not a defence and they intend to use there powers if needed. They also mention a lot about when there investigations are complete at the end of the year they will use enforcement or seek an injunction. Seems to me they mean business, I would like to know what the banks solicitors think to the new POC's??????? I think by christmas once the OFT's investigation is complete the banks are going to agree a lower amount £12 and pull out. But this would then not really solve any issues as people would still like credit cards go to the courts for the full amount. Clogging up the systems which is what the waiver is all about really Or they may go to court as it is only in relation to the UTCCR's so they may appeal and drag it on for as long as they can, Or as we are in England anything can happen and the judge sides with the banks
  15. I have received an email back regarding the price just as well i was sat down!! The copies have come back & the full cost for your photocopying is £85.50 and the cheque should be made payable to HMCS ( Her Majesty Court Service Yours Sincerely I think i may need to do a pay per view lol!!! I am going to send of the the un edited copy as the OFT defence when published i expect will be half as long as these ones. I wont be able to post them on the site because there is approx 160 pages according to the price and i don't have the time to scan all the pages and post them. If any member wants to do this i can get copies done and post them to an address for them if they cover the costs of the copys and postage, sorry but its the best i can do. If there was 20 -30 pages i would scan them and put them on a thread but 160 would take to long. CRFX250 have you any idea when you will receive the PDF version as this would be a lot quicker to put on a thread, also just out of intrest i got a reply back from Sion Simon MP the guy on the Northen rock program last week, asking for my postal address so he can reply back in writing to me. I am guessing if i say where my address is which is 120 miles from where he is he will say to speak to my own MP?? or do you think he still might reply?? not emailed my address yet just thought i would see what you think first. Thanks
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