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  1. Hi, 1 Date of the infringement 18/04/2019 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 24/04/2019 3 Date received 26/04/2019 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] No 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up you appeal] No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up Not yet appealed 7 Who is the parking company? Excel Parking 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Media City, Manchester Apparently the car did overstay by about 20 minutes, but I wasn't the driver - in fact I don't drive! So a quick question about Excel Parking, do I just ignore this invoice until I receive a notice before action? Thanks
  2. I had the same issue with VCS at Liverpool Airport last year although I was the keeper, not the driver, of the car. If you have a read of this post - https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/408248-vcs-pcn-liverpool-airport-no-stopping/#comments - you can read all the helpful advice I received. If you go straight to comment #42 you can read the exact wording of the letter I sent to their lawyers (wording courtesy of EricsBrother if I remember right) after I received their Letter Before Action. Never heard a word from them after the letter apart from a couple of weird emails that were easily ignored. Keep the faith...
  3. Yes I can block them on the mail server and send them an auto-reply each time they try to mail me. I am tempted to just mark their emails as spam, that way if enough people do the same, none of their emails will get through to anybody. Forgot to mention in my last post they say they are contacting me about my account with VCS Ltd - must be the account I opened last time they had a half price sale
  4. Hi, Not had any new threats from BW Legal or VCS Ltd since my last post, but just want to update the thread with what has happened since I was last here... BW Legal have somehow gotten hold of my email address and have sent me 2 emails within a week! Don't have a clue where they might have got it from, I certainly didn't give it to them. I've only ever been in contact with them once when I wrote the letter (sent by post) to them that the guys on here recommended I write telling them to jog on. It's no biggie, not looking for any advice on this one, just thought it might be of interest to anyone that keeps track of these companies activities. Cheers
  5. Sorry, you must be mistaking me for some other thread. I've only sent 1 letter to them as I was advised to do in response to the Letter Before Action I received from BW Legal. I sent them the reply suggested by ericsbrother - this... "Dear sirs, Unfortunately for you I wasn't born yesterday so I won't be paying the demand to your client as both you and they know what I know and that there is no liability in this matter because the land is covered by its own byelaws, the signage is prohibitive and not an offer of a contract so none has been breached and anyway the POFA limits any charge to the specified sum so your demand for £160 is just a nonsense. As VCS has been spanked at court on this very same thing several times before I suggest that you tell your client to discontinue this foolishness and that way you will at least obey the SRA rules of conduct and obey Civil Procedure as well. Should they decide to continue then I shall be asking for a ful costs recovery order for unreasonable behaviour and the seek damages for breach of the DPA as per VCS v Philip, Liverpool CC dec 2016. Even Will and John, the parking worlds worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf." I've followed the advice on this thread to the letter - can't see the point in asking experienced people for advice then choosing to ignore it, that doesn't make sense to me. Are you saying I shouldn't have replied to their LBA?
  6. do I just ignore the latest letter from them for now and do you think they will take it any further?
  7. I didn't realise I'd never posted the NTK - apologies, it's attached now... They don't mention POFA anywhere in the NTK, the back of the letter has info on how to pay or appeal but no mention of POFA at all. Surely as lawyers these people must know they have zero chance of enforcing these invoices? It makes me really angry that they are allowed to get away with trying to scare people into paying considerable sums of money with threats of CCJ's etc. when they know full well that it's not true It's one thing for a dodgy company to try that, but for lawyers to then get involved, and keep up the pretense, must flout some Law Society rules???
  8. ***Latest Update*** I received a reply this morning from BWL (letter attached). Excuse the quality of the image, it came all screw up in the post and it's difficult to get a good scan of it. They say they still intend to pursue me, or the driver (not sure which), but interestingly they no longer mention any legal action. Do you think that means they have given up on that route? Is there anything I need to do at this stage or do I just ignore it for now unless they start mentioning legal action again? I'm not in the slightest bit concerned if they do decide to take the legal route, but it would be good to know what the likely outcome is from here Many thanks
  9. Thanks for all the suggestions. I just copied and pasted ericsbrother's original wording, I did intend to check everything before typing it up I'll update the thread when I hear anything back...
  10. OK thanks - the suggested reply I came across that I like best is from ericsbrother... "Dear sirs, Unfortunately for you I wasn't born yesterday so I won't be paying the demand to your client as both you and they know what I know and that there is no liability in this matter because the land is covered by its own byelaws, the signage is prohibitive and not an offer of a contract so none has been breached and anyway the POFA limits any charge to the specified sum so your demand for £160 is just a nonsense. As VCS has been spanked at court on this very same thing several times before I suggest that you tell you client to discontinue this foolishness and that way you will at least obey the SRA rules of conduct and obey Civil Procedureicon as well. I know that may well be a first for you but call it your new year's resolution. Should they decide to continue then I shall be asking for a ful costs recovery order for unreasonable behaviour and the seek damages for breach of the DPA as per VCS v Philip, Liverpool CC dec 2016. Even Will and John, the parking worlds worst solicitors seem to have got fed up with Simple Simon's stupidity and greed and presumably that is why you are wasting your ink on his behalf." I'll send this, unsigned, by recorded delivery to BW Legal tomorrow unless someone tells me otherwise. Many thanks
  11. Hey again, New update as promised... This thread started way back in January and the advice I've received up to now has been to ignore everything from VCS Ltd or their legal people until I receive a letter before claim from BW Legal. Well today I opened the attached letter and I think it might be the said LBC - it was sent about 2 weeks ago, but I've been away so only just seen it. So I guess now is the time to send them the robust letter that has been mentioned a few times in the thread? (assuming it is the LBC) Is there a template letter I can use, and if so, can anyone point me in the right direction? If not, any suggestions what the letter should say? Many thanks
  12. Ahh, I see, I took his suggestion literally So is the advice to still ignore them at this stage or do I send them some other wording?
  13. You're more than welcome, the advice I've received here recently, and in the past, has been invaluable...
  14. I hear what you're saying and it makes sense - I took my lead from ericbrother's suggestion in an earlier post...
  15. I haven't entered into any communication with anyone about this issue so far. I've been following the advice of ericsbrother, dx100uk, and yourself about ignoring everything until VCS's legal team get involved - which they have done today. So far from them I've received... 1. Original NTK from VCS dated 19/01/18 2. Final reminder from VCS dated 19/02/18 3. Today's 2 letters, one from VCS the other from BW Legal (as outlined in my earlier post).
  16. Good Morning, As promised an update of how this is progressing... Today I received 2 letters (attached), apologies for the poor quality, there's a problem with my phone's camera. I think there a legible though. The first is from Vehicle Control Services Ltd. telling me that as I have failed to pay them they have now handed it over to their legal representatives, BW Legal. The second letter (in the same envelope - not sure if that is relevant or not) is from BW Legal themselves saying I need to pay, otherwise they may commence legal proceedings. So now I write to them saying something along the lines of: "Dear BW Legal, Reference: xxxxxxxxx In reply to your letter sent on 15/03/2018. As you are aware, there has been no breach of contract between myself and VCS because there wasn't one offered to start with, therefore I owe nothing. I would further point out that this has been proven many times before which suggests you are merely trying to obtain money by deception. Regards" Is the wording strong enough/too strong? Any suggestions of changes to make would be greatly appreciated. I've made a small donation to the site today because I really appreciate all the help and advice I've received. Many thanks
  17. Thanks for the advice, I will do that and update the thread when it all starts to kicks off
  18. Thanks for the replies, I'll update the thread as and when things start to get interesting
  19. Hi All, Received an Invoice from Vehicle Control Solutions for allegedly stopping in a no-stopping area on a private access road at Liverpool Airport - I was not the driver of the vehicle. I've read all the posts concerning VCS and no-stopping on private land at the airport and my understanding is I should ignore everything from them until their lawyers get involved. At that stage I should send them something along these lines... "Dear VCS, In reply to your letter sent on xx/xx/2018. There has been no breach of any contractual agreement therefore I owe you nothing. Regards" If it then proceeds to court I should come back here for further advice. Have I got that all right or have I missed anything? Thanks in advance 1 Date of the infringement 16/01/2018 2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] posted: 19/01/2018 3 Date received: 23/01/18. 4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] No 5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Yes 6 Have you appealed? {y/n?} No Have you had a response? [Y/N?] N/A 7 Who is the parking company? Vehicle Control Services 8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Liverpool John Lennon airport. For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under. IPC
  20. Didn't even realise that was an option. Do you have a link to anywhere on the forum I can find out what's involved and how to go about finding out if they have a case? Thanks again for all your help with this ericsbrother, wouldn't have been as easy to stick it out without all the help I've received here.
  21. Final Update... Sorry, been on holiday so forgot to update this thread as I promised to do. POPLA upheld this case so nothing to pay and received a letter from Parking Eye confirming they are no longer trying to extort any money! Thank you to everyone who helped out with advice, and my advice to anyone reading this in future in the same situation is DON'T be tempted to roll over for these sharks, it's well worth the effort to stand up to them. Thanks again for all the help...
  22. Thanks ericsbrother & Homer67 for all the advice... I think we will go down the POPLA route, just to be on the safe side and see where it leads. I'll keep this thread updated if they do try to go to court or if they give up at this stage. Thanks again.
  23. 3rd update as promised... After sending the following letter to Parking Eye: Dear PE, Ref Number: xxxxxxxx Please cancel the above parking charge on the basis of the following: 1. Your Notice To Keeper was issued too late to create a keeper liability. Alleged 'event' occurred on 01/07/17 - 'parking charge' issued 21/07/17 (outside the 14 day limit). 2. It does not state what the event that caused the money to be claimed is. 3. It does not say whether it is a contractual demand or a demand for monies due as a result of a breach of contract. 4. It does not say who the creditor is. As all of these are required to be included in a notice under the Protection of Freedoms Act, Parking Eye should now cease corresponding with the me or risk action for breach of the Data Protection Act for not adhering to the terms of their Keeper of a Vehicle at the Date of an Event contract. Regards We received a reply denying our appeal (letter attached) - but from what I've read on other posts, this is their normal course of action. Still, it doesn't make any sense that they should deny the appeal given that, as ericsbrother has said, their original invoice is riddled with mistakes and they would obviously lose any further appeals. They have graciously offer to extend the discount period for a further 14 days so that we can pay the reduce amount, which is good of them - not! It appears we now have the option to appeal to POPLA, so my question is, is this the time to do that? Many thanks letter3.pdf
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