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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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Received my 6 years worth of statements on my single AND joint account.

 

Total amount eventually with 8% will be just under £10,000.

 

I have decided to combine the two accounts and then split it into 2 claims so I keep it under £5,000.

 

I have sorted all account charges and interest charges into date order and it works out if I claim between January 2002 and 16th August 2004 it comes to just over £3,500. This is what I am claiming for first. Once 8% is added in court, this will take the claim to £4985.

 

I will claim for the second £5,000 once this is settled. I want to play it as safe as possible.

 

Sent my first letter 28th March 2007 to:

The Royal Bank of Scotland

Retail Regulatory Risk

Business House B

PO Box 1000

Edinburgh

EH12 1HQ

Will wait the 7 days now for a response before sending my second.

Only thing I am a little unsure of is the Interest Charges as I couldn't understand why sometimes the formula worked out I was not due any interest, yet the same amount on a different year worked out I was due it all back.

For example:

04th February 2001 I was charged £17.12 interest with an o/d balance of £-837.65. The formula worked out I was ok to claim £4.19.

However, put the same information into the spreadsheet with date of 04th February 2007 and you get the full £17.12 back.

Can anyone explain this to me, so I understand what I am claiming for?

My understanding though is that even if I don't understand the interest forumla it is up to the bank to work out a different method of calculation.

Still it would help to know!

Thanks, and I will keep you posted on both my claims as they happen and donate at the end if succesful.

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Jack, the small claims limit doesn't include interest.

 

Furthermore I would suggest that you revise your claim back to seperate accounts. Firstly, you run the risk of having your second claim struck out by abusing the system (ie by splitting it to avoid costs) and you should really make a claim in full. Claiming for two accounts seperately is more reasonable. I realise you may have seen different advice to this, but in recent weeks, the scottish courts have started striking out second / third claims for this reason and it only takes one judge to have a bad day....

 

Secondly, due to the calculations of the spreadsheet, you shouldn't really have two accounts running in the same sheet. The calculations look up previous dates and you will be calculating interest figures across two accounts which is wholly incorrect.

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RBS CA1 £2794 SETTLED!!! RBS CA2 £503 SETTLED!!! HBOS CC £498 SETTLED!!! Barclaycard £705 (with CCI) ONGOING!!! NATWEST CA ONGOING!!! LLOYDS CA x 2, CC, LOAN ONGOING!!! HFC LOAN ONGOING!!!

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And I'm real sorry for picking again, but why are you only giving them 7 days? The purpose of the 14 days advised on this site is to allow the bank a total of 28 days to resolve your complaint before going to court.

 

Not giving them a reasonable amount of time to resolve could be seen (in court) as you not being reasonable, again another reason the banks could apply for your claim to be stricken out.

 

As for the interest calculation, it might be up to the bank to contest, but you certainly can't send them any old crap - it still has to be correct! If you had an issue with it, you should surely have checked BEFORE sending it off???!?!?

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RBS CA1 £2794 SETTLED!!! RBS CA2 £503 SETTLED!!! HBOS CC £498 SETTLED!!! Barclaycard £705 (with CCI) ONGOING!!! NATWEST CA ONGOING!!! LLOYDS CA x 2, CC, LOAN ONGOING!!! HFC LOAN ONGOING!!!

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Thanks for the reply.

 

Regarding the 7 days, apologies. I did actually put 14 days in the letter, so that was a error on my thread. I have used the standard template letter on this website.

 

As for the interest calculation, the amount I have worked out was done using the advanced spreadsheet. I just couldn't understand the different amounts given back on different days for the same interest charges and balances. However, I now see that may be because I was combining my two accounts and so it was throwing the formulas out.

 

I have taken my letter back out of the post tray and am going to rewrite it so that I am making a claim in full.

 

Am I still OK to seperate the claims into 2 for each account? For example, deal with my Single Account claim first in full and see how that works out. Then start the process again for my Joint Account?

 

The only reason I didn't do this in the first place was because one of the accounts was for £4,500 and so when the 8% would go on, it would have gone over the £5,000 limit and I was worried about going out of small claims and I didn't want to reduce the claim to keep it within the limit.

 

I was told the small claims limit may have included interest and so was just trying to play it safe.

 

Thanks again!

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Jack, handy it's only in the post tray! In which case, my advice would be what you have suggested. Two claims, one for each account. I don't see why you need to wait as one can't implicate the other but that is up to you. Incidentally, I did claims for two accounts with RBS, you can find links to them in my sig. The one settled before the other and I used the fact that the first one settled to fastrack a settlement on the second one.

 

I can confirm definitely definitely definitely that the SC limit DOES NOT include statuatory 8%. Just to check, you won't be including that UNTIL you file in court right? In which case, your £4,500 is fine.

 

I'm not an expert on the spreadsheets but I believe that the interest charges might be compounded ie they take into account previous charges and balances - I'm not sure though. By all means once you have split it out, I will gladly run over it and try to explain if you want?

 

 

 

 

Aussie, I don't entirely understand your question but in any case, I would advise you to ask this in your own thread not someone elses. Top of the forum page is a button NEW POST, write a new thread (aussie vs RBS or whoever) and ask your questions in there. Far more likely to get a better response that way.

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Stuck with RBS charges? Click here!!

 

RBS CA1 £2794 SETTLED!!! RBS CA2 £503 SETTLED!!! HBOS CC £498 SETTLED!!! Barclaycard £705 (with CCI) ONGOING!!! NATWEST CA ONGOING!!! LLOYDS CA x 2, CC, LOAN ONGOING!!! HFC LOAN ONGOING!!!

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Thanks for agreeing to quickly run over the interest on penalties for me.

 

I have sent the two files over.

 

About midway down each one, the Interest Charged and Interest on Penalties become the same.

 

Have a look and see if seems right to you. Thanks again. I will send it off once I feel more comfortable with this.

 

I may run the two at the same time and hopefully get a fasttrack if succesful on the second.

 

Jack

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Thanks for helping me with my spreadsheet.

 

I have received a reply regarding the interest calculation as time goes on and you are given more charges by the bank, it is likely that more of the overdraft interest will exist as a consequence of those charges. This is how the spreadsheet works it out.

 

I have also noticed now though that some of my charges have gone over the 6 year limit (2 months over). Will I need to take these out now, if I wish to keep my claim less opposable (for want of a better phrase!)

It's about £355 worth.

 

Thanks

 

Jack

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Personally, I would leave them in there until they tell you to take them out ;)

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RBS CA1 £2794 SETTLED!!! RBS CA2 £503 SETTLED!!! HBOS CC £498 SETTLED!!! Barclaycard £705 (with CCI) ONGOING!!! NATWEST CA ONGOING!!! LLOYDS CA x 2, CC, LOAN ONGOING!!! HFC LOAN ONGOING!!!

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It has been 14 days since my first letter, and I have received a letter from RBOS saying that they are looking into the matter and they will come back to me shortly.

 

Am I right in thinking that I send my second letter giving another 14 days and carry on with the process?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

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yes you are ;)

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Always start with the User guide!

Stuck with RBS charges? Click here!!

 

RBS CA1 £2794 SETTLED!!! RBS CA2 £503 SETTLED!!! HBOS CC £498 SETTLED!!! Barclaycard £705 (with CCI) ONGOING!!! NATWEST CA ONGOING!!! LLOYDS CA x 2, CC, LOAN ONGOING!!! HFC LOAN ONGOING!!!

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Can anyone help?

 

I have some partially good news!!

 

I originally sent off two applications, one for my single account (£4,207.00)and one for my joint account (£3,006.00).

 

I have had my first letter back from RBOS offering £4,207.00. I am presuming that as I made my applications seperately, they will respond seperately and so this is just for the single account application.

 

What I wish to do now is to write back advising that I have a 2nd claim outstanding and should they wish to make the same offer on that one then I would be prepared to accept both out of court.

 

Is this wrong to do this? Should I just wait to see what happens on the 2nd one or should I use this offer to fast track the second with a follow up letter?

 

I want to do it for 2 reasons:

 

- To ensure that this first offer isn't for both claims

- To try and get a quick resolution on the second.

 

What do you think?

 

The other point I wish to clarify is that RBOS are making the payment directly into my account, however I wish to have this made by cheque. How do I go about requesting this? Do I just write to advise?

 

Thanks

 

Matthew

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Didn't want to telephone as I have always been advised to do things by letter as there is a risk of emotions taking hold on the telephone.

 

Sent this letter to them on the 13th June:

Thank you for your letter dated ..... I wish to accept your offer of settlement on the above account. This will be on the basis of a full and final settlement of my complaint on the above account only.

 

I am still currently in the process of awaiting a response from yourselves regarding reference xxxxxxxxx; this complaint was acknowledged on ............

I would appreciate a consistent speedy response on that equal matter as soon as possible to avoid any further action.

To clarify my position, I am accepting this offer as payment for my first claim, not both. I require repayment of my second claim in full. If you do not comply fully within 14 days then I shall begin a claim against you for the full amount plus interests plus my costs and without further notice.

I have supplied a list of all charges and interest applied to the second account for your reference. I am enclosing a copy of the schedule of the charges which I am claiming. I have already sent you a copy of this in my original letter .......

Finally, to assist me in further in my financial commitments, I would like to ask that you transfer the funds to the following bank account:

AN Other Bank

Address

Account Number: xxxxxxxxx Sort Code: xxxxxxxxxx

Alternatively a cheque will suffice.

Have now had the following reply:

 

Thank you for your correspondence received here on 18/06/07 relating to your claim for a refund of charges applied to your account.

 

Unfortunately, due to the outstanding debt on open account number xxxxxxxx I am unable to comply with your request for payment to be made into another account. If you wish to proceed with your acceptance and have the funds transferred to this account then please confirm to us in writing.

 

Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance.

 

Yours sincerely.....

 

The outstanding debt is an agreed overdraft.

 

Should I just have it transferred and hope they don't try and cancel my overdraft? Or should I request a cheque, as I have advice that a cheque is best, in case they cancel the overdraft?

 

Also, they haven't acknowledged my other claim in this correspondance.

 

Any suggestions as to how I should reply?

 

I am thinking about just writing to instruct them to transfer the funds into my account as payment for my first claim and to settle only that one and not both. I will then advise them that I will be proceeding with the second one in due course, advising them that as they received my letter on the 18th June 2007, I will give them 14 days from then to reply to that second claim, which gives them until the 2nd July 2007, at which point I will put in my claim to the courts.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Jack

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