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    • Hello,

      On 15/1/24 booked appointment with Big Motoring World (BMW) to view a mini on 17/1/24 at 8pm at their Enfield dealership.  

      Car was dirty and test drive was two circuits of roundabout on entry to the showroom.  Was p/x my car and rushed by sales exec and a manager into buying the mini and a 3yr warranty that night, sale all wrapped up by 10pm.  They strongly advised me taking warranty out on car that age (2017) and confirmed it was honoured at over 500 UK registered garages.

      The next day, 18/1/24 noticed amber engine warning light on dashboard , immediately phoned BMW aftercare team to ask for it to be investigated asap at nearest garage to me. After 15 mins on hold was told only their 5 service centres across the UK can deal with car issues with earliest date for inspection in March ! Said I’m not happy with that given what sales team advised or driving car. Told an amber warning light only advisory so to drive with caution and call back when light goes red.

      I’m not happy to do this, drive the car or with the after care experience (a sign of further stresses to come) so want a refund and to return the car asap.

      Please can you advise what I need to do today to get this done. 
       

      Many thanks 
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    • Housing Association property flooding. https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/438641-housing-association-property-flooding/&do=findComment&comment=5124299
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    • We have finally managed to obtain the transcript of this case.

      The judge's reasoning is very useful and will certainly be helpful in any other cases relating to third-party rights where the customer has contracted with the courier company by using a broker.
      This is generally speaking the problem with using PackLink who are domiciled in Spain and very conveniently out of reach of the British justice system.

      Frankly I don't think that is any accident.

      One of the points that the judge made was that the customers contract with the broker specifically refers to the courier – and it is clear that the courier knows that they are acting for a third party. There is no need to name the third party. They just have to be recognisably part of a class of person – such as a sender or a recipient of the parcel.

      Please note that a recent case against UPS failed on exactly the same issue with the judge held that the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Act 1999 did not apply.

      We will be getting that transcript very soon. We will look at it and we will understand how the judge made such catastrophic mistakes. It was a very poor judgement.
      We will be recommending that people do include this adverse judgement in their bundle so that when they go to county court the judge will see both sides and see the arguments against this adverse judgement.
      Also, we will be to demonstrate to the judge that we are fair-minded and that we don't mind bringing everything to the attention of the judge even if it is against our own interests.
      This is good ethical practice.

      It would be very nice if the parcel delivery companies – including EVRi – practised this kind of thing as well.

       

      OT APPROVED, 365MC637, FAROOQ, EVRi, 12.07.23 (BRENT) - J v4.pdf
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This morning on checking online I find that I have been charged referral charges of £30 for April. The only times I went over the limit was when the bank charged £60 referral charges for March without any prior notification - I paid cash in to cover it as soon as I was aware - the following day. I also went over when a direct debit (to the bank itself) was made that had been cancelled five days previously because the loan for which it was set up had been paid off. Bank advised that it had not received enough notice to cancel the direct debit - it had received full payment of the loan for heaven's sake!!!!!

 

 

This is only the latest in a long line of charges. The bank made a mistake which cost us a considerable amount of time and expenses for which we have never received a penny in compensation. It has admitted its error but as a direct result of this we had financial expenses and found that the bank has been profiting from its own errors and we are still paying for it.

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Well the bank has refunded the £30 charges with a letter explaining that it was not at fault - it had no duty to notify me of the £60 charges - I should have know about them beforehand. However, I have again been charged £30 because I went over with the £30 charges it charged before!!! Just cannot seem to win.

 

they have also now played another blinder. When we took out a bank loan it insisted that we take out a life insurance policy although we had insurance to cover about three times the amount of our borrowings but apparently these finished eighteen months before the loan ended. They would not let us take out a policy to cover what would be outstanding after 20 years repayment but insisted that we take out a policy for the full amount. This has cost us £90 a month for 15 years. I am sure we could have shortened the term of the loan but the bank wouldn't hear of it. I am sure the extra loan repayments would have been less than the amount of the insurance payments. The bank insisted that it had to protect itself etc. etc.

 

Well, anyway we sold the property and were able to repay the loan in full and wanted to cash in the insurance policy (there was a small savings element £5000). We got a quote from the insurance company that the policy was worth £5500 but they wanted the policy back from the bank before it would encash it. the usual blurb that the amount of the policy could change etc. Well we wrote to the bank (who should have returned the policy at the time of paying off the loan. No response - wrote again. Still no response and wrote again. Guess what - they lost the policy!!!! No apology - just a copy of a letter they wrote to the insurance company informing them that they should issue us with another policy. No (sorry but let us have a bill for the extra costs or anything). anyway the policy paid up - £600 less than the first quote.

Will write to RBS asking for their comments first but will be prepared for yet another battle with them.

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I wrote to the bank asking why they had not responded to our letter, returned the policy and their comments on the loss of £600 on the value of the policy.

The response was that they did not have to return the policy unless we specifically asked and that policies encompassed all borrowings. When the business loan was taken out we were specifically asked to take out additional insurance even though we had more than three times the amount of the insurance needed, only the policies ran out about 18 months before the end of the business loan. We still had to take out a policy to cover the whole amount and not just the balance that would be outstanding for the last eighteen months,

 

The bank cited that the delay in returning the policy was due to the delay in receiving our letter (14 days in the post!!!! apparently) and had nothing to do with the delay in returning the policy. The policy was never returned - a letter from Sheffield said it had been mislaid - that in my opinion was the cause of the delay in replying to our letter. The response informing us that the delay was because of not receiving our letter came from Hull. I don't think that they knew of the letter from Sheffield as they totally contradicted themselves. Will now send them a copy of the letter from Sheffield.

 

I asked why they they had charged us two security release fees - in my opinion this was because there were two securities to release - the deeds and the insurance policy. But no - apparently they had taken two fees in error and refunded the second fee accordingly. They had never intended releasing the policy so they say, unless we specifically asked.

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