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    • love the extra £1000 charge for confidentialy there BF   Also OP even if they don't offer OOC it doesn't mean your claim isn't good. I had 3 against EVRi that were heard over the last 3 weeks. They sent me emails asking me to discontinue as I wouldn't win. Went infront of a judge and won all 3.    Just remember the law is on your side. The judges will be aware of this.   Where you can its important to try to point out at the hearing the specific part of the contract they breached. I found this was very helpful and the Judge made reference to it when they gave their judgements and it seemed this was pretty important as once you have identified a specific breach the matter turns straight to liability. From there its a case of pointing out the unlawfullness of their insurance and then that should be it.
    • I know dx and thanks again for yours and others help. I was 99.999% certain last payment was over six years ago if not longer.  👍
    • Paragraph 23 – "standard industry practice" – put this in bold type. They are stupid to rely on this and we might as well carry on emphasising how stupid they are. I wonder why they could even have begun to think some kind of compelling argument – "the other boys do it so I do it as well…" Same with paragraph 26   Paragraph 45 – The Defendants have so far been unable to produce any judgements at any level which disagree with the three judgements…  …court, but I would respectfully request…   Just the few amendments above – and I think it's fine. I think you should stick to the format that you are using. This has been used lots of times and has even been applauded by judges for being meticulous and clear. You aren't a professional. Nobody is expecting professional standards and although it's important that you understand exactly what you are doing – you don't really want to come over to the judge that you have done this kind of thing before. As a litigant in person you get a certain licence/leeway from judges and that is helpful to you – especially if you are facing a professional advocate. The way this is laid out is far clearer than the mess that you will get from EVRi. Quite frankly they undermine their own credibility by trying to say that they should win simply because it is "standard industry practice". It wouldn't at all surprise me if EVRi make you a last moment offer of the entire value of your claim partly to avoid judgement and also partly to avoid the embarrassment of having this kind of rubbish exposed in court. If they do happen to do that, then you should make sure that they pay everything. If they suddenly make you an out-of-court offer and this means that they are worried that they are going to lose and so you must make sure that you get every penny – interest, costs – everything you claimed. Finally, if they do make you an out-of-court offer they will try to sign you up to a confidentiality agreement. The answer to that is absolutely – No. It's not part of the claim and if they want to settle then they settle the claim as it stands and don't try add anything on. If they want confidentiality then that will cost an extra £1000. If they don't like it then they can go do the other thing. Once you have made the amendments suggested above – it should be the final version. court,. I don't think we are going to make any more changes. Your next job good to make sure that you are completely familiar with it all. That you understand the arguments. Have you made a court familiarisation visit?
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we have always had pre-payment meters as they are easier to run being on a low income

 

a year or so ago, could be longer, we had an eon smart meter put in for the electric, at the time we had the old style key that you had to take to a shop to top up, the key goes back into the meter and that tops it up

 

so a smart meter was in, and we could "top up" online, pretty good.

 

 

around two weeks ago the smart meter was just showing "000s" everywhere, for the time, and all readings

 

over the last couple of months the eon website was really terrible to use too, payments were being made but not going to the meter etc

 

we tried to make a top up last night, just got a circle while the page was loading, nothing happening, we checked the online bank and payment went through

 

then this morning the electric went off

 

after ages on the phone, they gave me a code to enter into the meter, this got us back on

 

but smart meter display still showing no info

 

 

my other half the account holder rang them this evening, we need a new smart meter, and how stupid is this........

 

we cant have one meter swapped for another

 

they have to install an old type meter with key first

 

and then come back another time to put another smart meter in

 

 

SO MUCH FOR PROGRESS!!

 

its a good exercise in time wasting though

 

I think more than likely, we will stick with the key meter.

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Simply to protect yourself I would make sure that you take photographs of any incorrect readings et cetera on the meter – and also make sure that you have followed our customer services guide and you are recording the calls that you are having with them – although I notice that you have been here since 2011 so you know to do that already. Good job.

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Get a an old meter fitted and stick to it.

Many threads here and other forums about how stupid these smart meters are.

 

+1

Dont let them downgrade you to a 'smart' meter again if you are lucky enough to get rid.

 

 

Also ask them how they will confirm that this clearly malfunctioning 'smart' meter hasn't overcharged you

and if they say did you keep your readings, say you were told one of the benefits of smart meters was that you didn't have to - the meter did it all for you, and anyway - how would you know if it was running right or 10% fast or even more.

 

 

Perhaps Malc, the EON rep on site here can help you?

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/member.php?323098-E-ON-Company-Rep-Malc

 

Please keep us posted.

 

 

Ah . EON claim

"Your meter has friendly disconnection times where you’ll still get electricity even if you run out of credit during these times."

https://www.eonenergy.com/for-your-home/your-account/smart-meter-booking-tool

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we have always had pre-payment meters as they are easier to run being on a low income

 

a year or so ago, could be longer, we had an eon smart meter put in for the electric, at the time we had the old style key that you had to take to a shop to top up, the key goes back into the meter and that tops it up

 

so a smart meter was in, and we could "top up" online, pretty good.

 

 

around two weeks ago the smart meter was just showing "000s" everywhere, for the time, and all readings

 

over the last couple of months the eon website was really terrible to use too, payments were being made but not going to the meter etc

 

we tried to make a top up last night, just got a circle while the page was loading, nothing happening, we checked the online bank and payment went through

 

then this morning the electric went off

 

after ages on the phone, they gave me a code to enter into the meter, this got us back on

 

but smart meter display still showing no info

 

 

my other half the account holder rang them this evening, we need a new smart meter, and how stupid is this........

 

we cant have one meter swapped for another

 

they have to install an old type meter with key first

 

and then come back another time to put another smart meter in

 

 

SO MUCH FOR PROGRESS!!

 

its a good exercise in time wasting though

 

I think more than likely, we will stick with the key meter.

 

Hello levemir and I'm sorry your smart Pay As You Go meter developed a fault.

 

I'm not technically trained so don't know what would've caused your meter to fail. We've a specialist smart Pay As You Go team who will be happy to give you more information (contact details are on our website).

 

They'll also be able to talk to you about why we need to fit an older style Prepayment meter instead of a like-for-like smart meter. I agree, this does seem strange. The technology has changed since we first installed your smart meter and I suspect it's linked to that. Guessing here and could be completely wrong. As I say, our specialists will be able to tell you why.

 

No problem if you want to stay with the key meter just installed. Smart meters are optional and you can refuse future request to have one if you wish.

 

Sorry again for the hassle levemir.

 

Malc

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We've a specialist smart Pay As You Go team who will be happy to give you more information (contact details are on our website).

 

Perhaps a link for a customer who has been having problems with your website (as stated) would help Malc?

 

 

I went to look but half your site hits my crap filters so doesn't work well at all. Including 'equitystory.com' and 'lpsnmedia.com' which were default blocked ... whatever they have to do with interacting with your customers ...

 

 

Nice big shiny 'Get a SMART meter' straight in your face to add insult to injury for people with problems with SMART meters though ... Nice one :roll:

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Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

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Perhaps a link for a customer who has been having problems with your website (as stated) would help Malc?

 

 

I went to look but half your site hits my crap filters so doesn't work well at all. Including 'equitystory.com' and 'lpsnmedia.com' which were default blocked ... whatever they have to do with interacting with your customers ...

 

 

Nice big shiny 'Get a SMART meter' straight in your face to add insult to injury for people with problems with SMART meters though ... Nice one :roll:

 

Clicking on the contact us did nothing at all for me.

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The Tory Legacy

Record high: taxes, immigration, excrement in waterways, energy company/crony profits

Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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Did you get any way toward solving your issues levemir?

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Loving your country enough to care for its old and poor, fund its institutions, unite its communities, feed, house and educate its children, restore and live in balance with its environment, plan with care for its future, build its alliances, and perhaps above all - tell it the truth

 

 

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Record low: living standards and investment

Crumbling Hospitals, schools, council services, businesses and roads

They squander taxpayer money by the £thousands on a failed ex-PMs luxury troughing on a plane, rather than feed UK children

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