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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
    • What you have uploaded is a letter with daft empty threats from third-party paper tigers.  Just ignore it. What we need to see is the original invoice you received last October or November.
    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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Hi,

 

Ashamed and embarrassed to even be writing this but I made a big mistake / choice a few days ago.

 

I was in Primark and was looking for Xmas gifts. I had one large item and 5 smaller items. As far as what I was thinking I really have no idea. I had several bags in my hands at the time and between queuing and paying 2 of the smaller items ended up in one of the bags I was carrying.

 

I didn't think anything of it as I was leaving the store as I genuinely just paid what they asked for, picked up my items and left. I was then called back by security who checked my bag and found the 2 small items (£1 each). I was then called back into the store and they took my details (on a form) and took a photocopy of my driving licence.

 

No police were called (can they be called retrospectively), no mention of a letter / charge / fine, nothing given to me by them at all. I was however banned from the store for a year and unsure whether this means my local store or all?

 

I have read through pretty much all threads and seen all the guidance to ignore any letters, I just wonder whether I will get any really.

 

I would really appreciate some guidance and advice specific to the above if you don't mind. Needless to say I will be a lot more careful and forthcoming in future. I feel terrible about the entire thing.

 

Any guidance appreciated.

 

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Hi and welcome to CAG

 

Until we know more about what Primark and RLP will do in regard of whether you will get the begging letters or not depends on Primark. Personally, I wouldn't bother with a couple of quids worth when a store ban is punishment enough however, I can't see what goes on the minds of security.

 

It's a case of wait and see what happens. As they were not clear about the store ban, I would go into other branches and stay away from that one (or put on fake glasses and a funny nose)

 

No point really going over why you did it just don't do it again, mistake/choice or not

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Thanks for your response,

 

Appreciate it. I think my concerns are anything else appearing off the back of it i.e police, records etc for something I don't feel I did intentionally as such although I didn't come forward so I guess that is the same thing really!

 

Overall really ashamed and annoyed with myself but would just like some clarity on what people feel may happen so I can prepare for it I suppose.

 

Thanks again

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The police will NEVER become involved, especially for tiny amounts like this so don't worry about that at all. The only issue you 'may' have is if RLP contact you. You thn have to learn how to interpret letters into their true meaning but that's what we are here for.

 

Don't stress the small stuff

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yea please do letter have a good laugh

we've seen them all before but their powerless drivel always makes us smile

 

if you browse a few like threads here

you'll see the exact letters you'll get

so will be able to not panic when you get them and scan them for us then use them for hamster bedding or alike.

 

dx

 

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as for being banned. they don't circulate picture so just sty out of that store for a month or two.

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

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If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Whilst I don't see RLP getting involved (due to the small amount) I am happy to be proved wrong and I absolutely welcome letters from RLP. Just reading them makes my day.

 

Before uploading, ensure that you remove all traces of your details and any reference numbers.

 

Life sucks at times (been there- got the T shirt) but this one should add 0.0000% to them. :madgrin:

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what does 0% equal?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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it cant..don't get had

read our threads here on RLP CAREFULLY!!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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PDF please so we can zoom

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but that's a letter we have several exact copies of here already.

one of their STD templates

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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