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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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Looking for advice. Family members were visiting friends and paid and parked for 24 hours in a SIPs car park. placed the ticket on display several people could of been the driver of the said car, and then left before the 24 hour expiry.

 

Today a a letter has been sent to the household house, from SIP stating the who ever was diving the car didn't pay or display a the ticket. NO notice was placed on the car on their return so this is the first that anybody was aware. infant the section on which they were parked its not even clear if SIPs have any right on this section. However there are signs on the entrance so a ticket was purchased.

 

We are hopeful we still have the ticket in the vehicle but given its over 30+ days since the alleged "offence" took and this is the first notice of parking fine! Any advice on the next steps. As 2 of 4 potential drivers are students so £100 fine is a lot!

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right, date of the parking event, place of the event, date the letter was issued, date it was received. What evidnece do they offer to show that no ticket was purchased as they must include pictures when NTK without a NTD Ie entry and exit phoos of car park or maybe a picture of the dashboard?

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They haven't provided any proof or images at this stage just that the letter states they had no ticket displayed. On returning to the car all 4 occupants and possible drivers state NO FPN was even stuck on the vehicle.

 

 

The letter today states the date, the time of issue which was in the VERY VERY early hours and the location, both possible drivers said it took several attempts to pay as the machine kept rejecting payment and one said they are sure that they actually didn't have to pay after a certain time but they didn't want to risk not! how ironic.

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The date the PCN incident took place was over 30+ days ago before this letter was issued, it states on the letter that the notice was affixed to car and the driver had 21 days to appeal , but nothing was affixed and the letter today is in excess of 30 days so even they had considered this, the date do so had elapsed and they only state in the letter you can complain to IPC which isn't independent so no-one is going to waste a stamp ! There is information on the about appealing to IAS but im not even sure they would agree to the appeal as the letter states

 

"the independent appeals service .theIAS.org ) provides an Alternative Dispute Resolution scheme for disputes of this type. We may engage with the IAS non standard appeals service at their discretion should a dispute arise over this charge in the future.

 

NOW given the IAS as "is the parking operator willing to take part in the IAS scheme? and if they say NO .... they state Sorry, unfortunately you are NOT able to use the Independent Appeals Service. plus the 21days has elapsed as this was the first anyone was aware of the PCN .

 

.Im also now pursuing DVLA in relation to GDPR breaches as the household want to know under what legimate legal request they have issued the registered keepers details to this company on and on what need to know requirement. Its my understanding that no-one in this household or any registered keepers have given the DVLA since MAY 2018 in this household ANY permission to share anyones details without their permission. Especially a company with such a **** poor reputation and im looking forward to Gladstones writing as I will have a field day with GDPR

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Thankyou Honey B

 

I didn't want to put too much info on date or location incase the company reads it as I was advised to avoid this.

 

 

the answers to the questions are

The date of infringement? October 2018

 

2 Have you yet appealed to the parking company yet? [Y/N?] NO please see above message.

 

 

 

If you haven't appealed yet - ,.........

 

have you received a Notice To Keeper? (NTK) [must be received by you between 29-56 days]

what date is on it the end of Nov 2018

Did the NTK provide photographic evidence? NO

 

3 Did the NTK mention Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) NO

 

4 If you appealed after receiving the NTK,

did the parking company give you any information regarding the further appeals process?

[it is well known that parking companies will reject any appeal whatever the circumstances] I already saw this in another thread ... plus see my above comments about the IAS

 

5 Who is the parking company? SIP

 

6. where exactly [Carpark name and town] did you park Clipper Quay Salford

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With GDPR you would have needed to write to the DVLA refusing them permission to divulge Your data before the incident. Where you might get them is if there was no reasonab!e cause to send your data.

 

At the moment we do not know why the ticket was issue d. Was it

a) the ticket wasn't visible

b) the ticket has the wrong time in it

c) the Car overstayed the time allowed or

d) SIPS Are total rogues and want your money any way they can.c

 

Until we know what offence was alleged we cannot determine if there was reasonable cause except if it was reason d). Although the reasonable cause charge may be easier to prove against SIPS than the DVLA.

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With GDPR you would have needed to write to the DVLA refusing them permission to divulge

Your data before the incident. Where you might get them is if there was no reasonab!e cause to send your

data.

 

Thats what I've done. I spoke with the ICO its currently a grey area but they were really helpful as the company are NOT a local authority or police so I may have grounds to pursue on this basis I was told.

 

At the moment we do not know why the ticket was issue d. Was it a) the ticket wasn't visible they are saying it wasnt displayed ... the drivers are saying it was clearly visable

 

SIPS Are total rogues and want your money any way they can I have read and given a ticket was purchased, displayed and the time it was issued in the morning I can tell and there WAS definitely no ticket affixed on anyones return.

Until we know what offence was alleged we cannot determine if there was reasonable cause except if it was reason d). Although the reasonable cause charge may be easier to prove against SIPS than the DVLA

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Is the location near to you? if so pictures of the signage and the payment meter would be very useful.

Now has any contact been made with the parking co yet? If not have a very good look for that ticket because it would be better to knock this on the head by direct contact but if you do that and dont have the ticket it gives them the impression you might be tempted to accept their chicanery and that asking for evidence is an admission it was you who parked.

It is not uncommon for parking co's to photograph the front of a car at a very odd angle so the ticket cant eb seen and then argue that it doesnt matter the ticet was bough and dispalyed, their attendant couldnt see it so you have to pay up. Also the " dissapearing ticket" con is well known and SIP are one of the more frequent companies where ths is a problem. Basically they issue a ticket, place it on the car and photograph it and the remove it so the first you know is the NTK a month later. this means the discount period has expired and it is more likely you have binned the actual receipt.

 

as for not putting the date and location then how are we supposed to advise you if they have followed the protocols of the POFA if we dont know?

sometimes we do see a result of the parking co's reading the threads here, they often drop their ridiculous claims once they see they have been rumbled as then it is obvious to others in the same boat that theirs isnt a unique situation and they have a presuasive argument of delberate action rather than just incompetence. One parking co many years ago liked to try and say that the person they were suing was x from an advice group and therefore that is an admission of guilt. the judge told them that anyone can take any advice and it doest change things and unless they could absolutely prove not onlly was the person the same as on the forum but they were making statements of truth rather than asking for advice then whetever they confessed to had no weight as anyone can tell lies on a public forum for any reason they like. Now in that case I think the judge was just fed up with the parking co as they could just decide that on the balance of probability it was the same person but basically they are supposed to prove their claim and not force you to disprove it.

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Thank-you for your reply.

No we don't live near the location, so we don't have pictures of the signage yet, but someone is getting those for us.

 

I did put the location up yesterday, It was Clipper Quay Salford, 2 of the possible drivers of this car are currently away, so until they return I don't yet have the ticket, they seem to think its in the car still along with half the empty contents of a BP garage !

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from waht can be seen on googlespyonyourneighbour the SIP signs are so lacking in detail they cant be an offer of terms that include a consideration for a breach of contract because there is no mention of it on the 3 signs around their meter and you dont have to consider the signs they refer you to from the entrance to make a contract, the meter does that for you and no mention of anything other than hiourly tariff there. Basically no contract offered to breach.

 

Still they are advised on the content of their signs by Will and John at the IPC who know more than the judges on this point but for some strange reason the judges enforce their decisions based on actual law instead.

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you do nothing at all, let the parking co decide what they want to do as whatever that is will cost them and not you.

Gte some decent pictures of the signage as you ahve someone going there all of the time

 

 

We have someone to get them.... would you not advise appealing? just wait to Gladstones write or whoever they use?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

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are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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We have someone to get them.... would you not advise appealing?

 

To the fleecers who are demanding 100 quid although the original ticket was paid for and they didn't even leave a NTD on the car so that they can get out of avoiding the discount the law provides for? What would be the point of that? You're dealing with conmen, there's no point appealing to them. You wouldn't write a polite appeal to someone you saw walking out of your house with a nicked TV, not far off being the same thing.

 

On the positive side, these conmen never follow the law when sending out their demands for money, so EB and the other experts here have a great record in seeing off their demands. There are no guarantees of course. But if you look at the PPCs Successes sticky, they do have a brilliant record over many years :madgrin:

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