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    • The Notice to Hirer does not comply with the protection of Freedoms Act 2012 Schedule  4 . This is before I ask if Europarks have sent you a copy of the PCN they sent to Arval along with a copy of the hire agreement et. if they haven't done that either you are totally in the clear and have nothing to worry about and nothing to pay. The PCN they have sent you is supposed to be paid by you according to the Act within 21 days. The chucklebuts have stated 28 days which is the time that motorists have to pay. Such a basic and simple thing . The Act came out in 2012 and still they cannot get it right which is very good news for you. Sadly there is no point in telling them- they won't accept it because they lose their chance to make any money out of you. they are hoping that by writing to you demanding money plus sending in their  unregulated debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors that you might be so frightened as to pay them money so that you can sleep at night. Don't be surprised if some of their letters are done in coloured crayons-that's the sort of  level of people you will be dealing with. Makes great bedding for the rabbits though. Euro tend not to be that litigious but while you can safely ignore the debt collectors just keep an eye out for a possible Letter of Claim. They are pretty rare but musn't be ignored. Let us know so that you can send a suitably snotty letter to them showing that you are not afraid of them and are happy to go to Court as you like winning.  
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    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
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fake 16+ card - used +1yrs - Ran when stoped by inspector - now letter of intended prosecution


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The court case is in March, yes they are after £300. I haven't returned the form yet just received it this morning.

 

Vplee just make your own thread, even if it's for your "friend". It's anonymous on here as you can tell from the previous posts I was panicking and not thinking straight and questioned my anonymity on the site as well. You're better off asking for help on your thread. Everyone's situation is different.

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you sent a begging letter.

when was this the last time you approached them for an OOC settlement?

 

TBH £300 is not too bad , try and settle before the case

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I sent them only the begging letter and I was just told that I had used it over 70 times and it wouldn't be in the public's interest not to go ahead with the prosecution. I'm either going to call them up or email them.

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Hi HB, I used the card to get to uni and back. I don't really go out much using the bus, if I do it's usually in friends/family members cars. So the card just showed my journeys back and forth from university, which is why it goes up to 70 journeys as the court summons letter had attached pages and pages of me taking the same bus and at the times at which I traveled.

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IMHO that's a good result.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I read through it again,

misread a lot of stuff in the morning and I didn't properly provide you both with the full information from the letters

 

like the fact that i'll have to pay back around £120 in bus fare that i owe on top of the fine they want to give me.

 

I'll try to get them uploaded tonight once I get home or by tomorrow morning.

 

I've noticed a lot of people on here recently like myself who have made the mistake of buying the 16+ oyster cards through social media.

 

I attached a screenshot of the sort of profiles that are selling these cards to give you an idea for any future posts.

P1.pdf

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And if something looks to good to be true.....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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  • 2 weeks later...

we had 2 of those the other week

both I believe were settled on the day before going in but I've a feeling they were told not so say anything on public forums

awaiting conf of this from someone. behind the scenes

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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HB, my court date is the 6th of March. I still have some time, I may try my luck again and see if I can talk to someone different on the phone. Would I still be able to go and see the prosecutor before the court proceedings take place even if i've pleaded guilty by post?

 

I haven't pleaded by post but I'm sort of leaning towards it since I've never been to court before. I'm already scared as it is so I don't know how I'd be able to handle the pressure of it all.

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Hi.

 

Old-Codja who advises here usually recommends to go to court and show remorse because the magistrates may be more lenient.

 

I believe you can still speak to the prosecutor on the day, maybe someone will confirm. You'll need to take cash with you to pay any fine and admin penalty.

 

There seems to have been an outbreak of these cards with people being conned and TfL seem to be taking a hard line because they're losing money and it costs more for people who pay their fares.

 

Still worth a try though.

 

HB

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don't plead by post guilty

plead guilty and say you will attend 

 

as I said

I know of two recent cases both fake facebook ad cards that were settled on the day with the prosecutors before the hearing actually started

one was over 350 uses.

 

the other actually went before the magistrate, the defendant had already pleaded guilty and attended showing remorse, the prosecutor denied OOC at the venue

the defendant stated this to the magistrate, they suggested the prosecutor allowed it to happen..it did .no criminal record.

 

but each case hangs on the BACKGROUND of the person.

if they have no extenuating reasons for OOC, like job/money needed to support family etc .. then it wont happen.

 

from what i'm being led to believe , the OOC clampdown is solely targeting younger students/graduates that have solely done it to save them money by knowing buying fake cards to evade full fare yearly costs ...esp when there are other schemes and bursaries GIVEN to cut the costs of travel.but hey spend that on other things they cant account for

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I didn't go to court, I just pleaded guilty by post which is stupid, I know. It's nearly been a week, I have still yet to receive the letter from the court as to what they decided.

 

Take the advice of the forum, plead guilty and attend the hearing to show remorse.

 

Once, I get the letter I'll give an update. 

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