Hi all,

My dad who is a private hire driver was dropping off a passenger at birmingham airport IBIS hotel.

This hotel allows passenger drop offs/pickups only by private hire drivers and is a red route in all other circumstances.

My dad recieved a fine

i sent off an appeal to APCOA detail that he was a private hire driver and eligible to drop off.

No response was received from and in return we got a debt recovery letter.

I then sent off another email to APCOA stating that i had sent an appeal but not received a response.

4 months down the line and without a response, i have now had a DCBL letter (although the letter states that this case is not subject to high court or bailiff action).

What is the best course of action?

For PCN's received through the post [ANPR camera capture]

please answer the following questions.

1 Date of the infringement - 5th March 2018

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] - i do not have this to hand as have misplaced it

3 Date received - as above

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?]

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? - Yes there is evidence of showing my dad doing a drop off, but i have since gone and taken a photo of the sign which states drop offs for taxi only.

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal] - appealed on 14th APril 2018 stating that my dad is a private hire driver and is eligible for the drop off

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up - NO response

7 Who is the parking company? APCOA

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Birmingham Airport

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

Hope you can help

THanks

can you check all the paperwork carefully and let us know where it states the word fine please?

the whole airport complex as with the likes of John Lennon Liverpoool will be covered by byelaw 14 rules which no private parking company issuing speculative invoices can ever enforce anyway.

This is the biggest problem we have and it is also the reason the parking co's actually get people to pay them.

IT ISNT A FINE and has nothing to do with jurisprudence, it is an invoice but because your father has treated it as though it has some official merit he has probably done more harm than good in appealing the demand.

So let us look at some of the things surrounding the issue.

The land is probably covered by airport byelaws so isnt "relevant land" as far as the POFA goes so they cant send a bill out for breaching a contract as the byelaws are supreme but nothing to do with the parking co.

Secondly, he had authority by way of other considerations to be there.

thirdy I bet the signage isnt an offer to park so sending out a demand for breaching PARKING conditions isnt a lawful one so cnat be enforced but that wont stop them trying as they just want to make money and certainly arent suddenly going to admit that they have no rights to demand anything and it is all a big mistake.

Ignore DBCL they are just rentathreats and have no interest in this or anything else.

If APCOA or their solicitors write then a response may well be needed but not to this bit of bog roll.