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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
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1 Date of the infringement: 14/09/2018, 2 instances from 19:46-19:57 then again at 20:00-20:13

 

2 Date on the NTK : 11/10/2018

 

3 Date received : 12/10/2018

 

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?] N

 

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event? Plate Number

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal] Y

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up N

 

7 Who is the parking company? Smart Parking

 

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town] Exeter, Haven's Bank retail park

 

My case is a bit weirder than the usual.

I got back from work around 19:30 and in my street they were having a BBQ party so cars parked and no where for me to park.

 

Good natured I asked them when will they finish and they said about 15 mins

I went in the nearest retail park in our place about 30 sec drive and parked there,

no other cars where parked (not knowing it was private).

 

I then left the car park after 13 mins to go back in our street and the cars are still parked

I gave them another leeway of 10 mins in which i proceeded to go back to the empty retail park (2nd time now) from 20:00 to 20:13

Got back and saw the party over and proceeded to park in my own street.

 

Now 1 month later i received 2 parking charge notice from a private company called Smart Parking asking for 90 quid or 54 if paid within 14 days.

 

I made an appeal stating what I said here but I haven't gotten a reply yet.

I was going to contact them through the phone but they are not opened on weekends.

 

Having revealed that I was the one driving the car, have I still got a leg to stand on?

I can possibly survive the £54 parking charge but having to pay £108 for not even 30 mins max of parking on an empty car park is a bit too much I think.

 

It also doesn't help that I didn't even see the sign that night stating it was privately owned I thought it was a bit misleading.

The letters too small especially not visible when dark.

 

Thank you for taking time your time to whoever is reading this.

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You are allowed atleast 10 mins to decide and read signs and then drive out

 

Shame you appealed

 

Bet you said it was You driving

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My first recorded time was 19:46:35 up to 19:57:46 which is just a bit over 10 mins.

My 2nd charge was timesd 20:00:42 up to 20:13:31 which is 13 mins.

 

Sadly two charges are outside the 10 mins leeway.

 

And I did say I was the one driving.

although on that appeal page It does ask you for initial, surname and address.

Sadly I went and appealed before I went to the forums.

 

Is there a way for me to just pay 1 of these charges which was my appeal to them.

Or have a shot myself now?

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I've retitled your thread and taken down the two NTK's as you'd left number plate and PCN refs showing

 

if the NTK's came on the dates you say

they are out of date for both

go read that link you used to fill in post 1

 

safe to ignore

 

until/or unless you get a letter of claim.

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You don't owe them a penny so stop worrying. They

Have their dates for the NTKs wrong so case over.

 

Hopefully even when I named myself the driver I won't be in trouble. I am even willing to pay 1 of the notice but not two when it is clearly just within 30mins.

 

Thanks for the replies anyway.

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30 mins??

 

My first recorded time was 19:46:35 up to 19:57:46 which is just a bit over 10 mins.

My 2nd charge was timesd 20:00:42 up to 20:13:31 which is 13 mins.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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30 mins??

 

My first recorded time was 19:46:35 up to 19:57:46 which is just a bit over 10 mins.

My 2nd charge was timesd 20:00:42 up to 20:13:31 which is 13 mins.

 

Yeah having two instances together brings it to just under 30, from 19:46 to 20:13. And asking 110 quid for that discounted or 180 full is ridiculous.

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no its 2 sep events

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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you need to stop thiking they will ever be reasonable, they wont be. As there were 2 separate events then you treat then as such, they have to. So, both fall under the grace period rule as the 10 minutes is a MINIMUM period, not a maximum or fixed time.

 

 

No you cnat just pay the charges, they dont make money that way, the parking fees go to the landowner, they make theior money inventing breaches to skin you for a couple of hundred rather than just keeping 20p.

 

 

Now, you ge on to the DVLA and find out who accessed your keeper details and when. If there is only 1 entry they have broken the law as they are not allowed to assume the keeper remains unchanged. Your could state that you were allowing a potentail purchaser to test drive the car and by the time of the second event they were the new owner!

 

 

 

Without proof they tried to get keeper detaisl for the second event they would ahve to admit they ahve no claim against you for the second charge. However it is the access to the DVLA register that is the important bit so ask the DVLA

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