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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    Hi, I have today been back to the petrol station to take more photos, which are attached. I have attached three photos in total. The first photo is opposite to where i parked, clearly this is not visible when you drive in. The second picture is the same but a little bit clearer. And the last pic is where i parked. I was in the position of the bigger car on the right. As you will probably notice somebody has taken the sign down. It was beneath the black sign.

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    how are we supposed to read the signs from those pictures? the adsnece of the sign is helpful though but PLEASE can you read other threads carefully so you know what we expect to enable us to help you. We wnat you to be able to tell these greedy gits that you are well aware of their behaviour and have the evidnec thatyou know their



    demands have no merit whatsoever so knowing what they are saying you were offered is importnat. The positioning of the signage means they are already on to a loser but another nail will keep the coffin lid on.

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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    Hi, I have taken another picture of the sign but had to go really close to get the small writing actually says. For the avoidance of doubt, it says the following:

    'private property.... Authorised vehicles only... a valid permit must be clearly displayedin windscreen at all times. No parking outside the designated are / parking bay. If unsure please seek advice from CPM or refrain from parking. By entering and remaining on this land you agree to abide by all the terms and conditions. Breach of ANy term or condition will result in the driver being liable for it. parking chargeicon of 100. Parking charges to be paid within 28 days card payment are subject to 1.50 processing fee additional parking charges apply for each 24 hour period, all part thereof that the vehicle remains in breach or if it returns any time. Terms and conditions apply 24 hr a day, all year round. Where a parking chargeicon becomes due an application may be made to the DVLA for the keepers details. Non payment will result in additional charges which will be added to the value of the charge and for which the driver will be liable on an indemnity basis. Automatic number plate recognition may be in use. Images maybe captured and retained for enforcement purposes. We are not liable for any loss or damage howsoever caused to any person or property whilst on this site. Save under any statutory exceptions. Manage by UK Carpark management LTD.


    You will not believe me when I tell you the sign which was taken down has just now appeared again. However, the problem is they have a picture of my car when the sign was there.

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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    this makes it even worse for the parking co as that is not the offer of a contract to park but a forbidding or prohibitive sign. That means any demand is an unlawful penalty.

    What to do? now you have enough evidence to beat them if they are mad enough to try their luck I would be sending them a letter stating the following.


    "Dear Will and John or Jamie and Helen, when you studied law you would have learnt the difference between a sign that is a unilateral contract and one that is forbidding in nature such as authorised vehicles only. It is a shame that the IPC cant tell the difference and advise its members accordingly but no matter as you are much cleverer than the people who run the IPC so you will of course tell your clients that there was no breach of contract to cause them to demand money because there was no contract offered and thus their demand is without cause.



    Any claim will be firmly rersisted and your clients will lose as per usual for a multitude of reasons that a lawyer should already know and the circumstances around this matter may also result in a claim for damages as a result of the breaches of the GDPRicon"



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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    That's great Ericsbrother. Just word processed and printed and now will send off first thing Monday morning. I will keep you all posted.


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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    I wonder if they have planning permission for those signs? Also in an earlier post it was mentioned about GDPRicon and shop assistant passing on photo. I would suspect that shop assistant may have been paid to pass on the photo and they are not registered to do this so maybe the extra income has not been declared to Inland revenue? Mentioning this to shop assistant may put them off taking any further photos and also maybe mentioning that person who took photo will be called into court to verify that they took the picture.


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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    Could tell the shop assistant that makes them a Data Controller and are they or their employer registered with the ICOicon, if the assistant is doing it not as part of their contracted duties they could be regarded as a data Controllere and will be reported to ICO. Might scare them a bit.

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    Default Re: CPM - UK/gladstones PCN - one photo by shop assistant - now threats of court - should i reply??

    Now, this may or may not put them off wanting to waste more money but you can use it in evidence that you have communicated with them over the matter and eventually if enough people make complaints to the SRA about Gladstones abuses they may get ordered to stop or lose the right to practise.


    NowI would go a bit further thanbrassnecked and say that the shop assistant doing the snapping is actually self employed in this role as it is nowt to do with petrol station and not employed by parking co so needs own registration with ICOicon for data handling. Knowing who actually owns the garage would be useful if you do want to go down this path


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    I was thinking on just those lines EB, is assistant being paid anything by Parking Co, if so they as you say would be self employed and HMRC might be interested in such emoluments.

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