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Basic Account Holder Do you record your calls? You'll regret it if you don't.
Cagger since : Sep 2018
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Re: Payplan payment review
Nat west 4000 credit card says wescot credit services as creditor name and further down it says ,under product name , wescot cabot accounts ...
Nat west £527. Current account . Wescot credit services , further down under product name it says wescot RBS retail accounts
this last one has had several owners ,
nat west /rbs sept 2008 ,
Wescot credit services apr 09 ,
nat west /rbs May 09,
hoist finance May 2010 ,
Nat West/rbs Nov 2011,
wescot credit services Aug 2016,
Nat west/ rbs July 17,
wescot credit services July 17 ...
so this , like all the others has been moved a lot .
Basic Account Holder Do you record your calls? You'll regret it if you don't.
Cagger since : Sep 2018
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Re: Payplan payment review
Sorry to be a pain ,
this is all new ro me .
What is a cca and what happens when I send it to them .
Should I send it to all of them .
I keep logging in when I can as I am working , helping my wife , who is in hospital and visiting my mother in a care home .
So it is all a bit hectic .
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Cagger since : Mar 2009
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Re: Payplan payment review
I think you may find that ,since Getmeout(GME) has made payments to the assignee, in law the debt is acknowledged.
Requesting a SAR or CCA should have been done before a payment was made & well before Payplan became involved, who in law are assisting the debtor( but not necessarily in spirit).
It is far too late to go down that route now.
I agree with everything that dx 100 uk says about the selling of debt without documentation but it happens and is immoral but not unlawful.
So what I am saying is that if GME stops paying Cabot and Link could and knowing them would take him to Court, where a judge will simply ask him '' do you owe the money''
- SAR's or CCA's that cannot be produced are totally irrelevant
- the history of the case speaks for itself.
A summary CCJ against him with costs and compound interest is a certainty.
For the record Moorcroft are HSBC's inside solicitors( a couple of guys and a filing cabinet)
& Westcroft are the RBS Group which include NatWest.
Since payments are being made the Bank is happy to keep the debt but stop and they will sell with a clear audit trail of debt and more Court cases.
My advice to GME is to politely advise Payplan that an IVA is not in your best interest.
Trust me I know – if it wasn’t for Priority One back in the day I would not be here.
Cagger since : Dec 2006
Posts : 120,020 (27.82 post per day)
Re: Payplan payment review
urh..
moorcroft are not anything to do with HSBC...and are certainly NOT solicitors
and [who is westcrofts??] if you mean wescot..or wetcloths as we like to call them..they are not part of the RBS group...
as for not needing to produce enforceable paperwork the judge will just say well muppet you've been paying it...seems like you've been out the loop for a few years...
just look at the 1000's of wins in the legal successes forum...
welcome back to CAG but with 8 posts since 2009..you really must keep up at the back...
Basic Account Holder Do you record your calls? You'll regret it if you don't.
Cagger since : Mar 2009
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Re: Payplan payment review
This is why I don't post - sarcastic and insulting replies with a touch of ageism.
But with £ 150k of shall we say 'avoidance' by reading the wise words of the sages on here and then reading the relevant legislation, some adapted wording (not templates) I have nothing to prove. In fact I might well be in the play offs for legal successes.
How many times have you been in Court as a LIP with a watertight case and the judge(clearly wanting his lunch) just asks you the question without reading anything. Then find £10k for an appeal.
If you pay an instalment you owe acknowledge a debt. Common law.
Don't pay after one instalment and you start the roulette wheel. Judge lottery.
Thanks to CAG True Call was the best £99 I ever spent - never acknowledge that you owe ought.
A punter who won but unfortunately can't type quick enough and isn't a techie.
I agree that makes me a dinosaur but with a far larger brain.
Lack of posts kept the wolves from the door but what I gleaned on here saved my life literally. Back to La La Land.
Cagger since : Dec 2006
Posts : 120,020 (27.82 post per day)
Re: Payplan payment review
i'm more than a dinosaur than you...
glad CAG helped you.
that's what we are here for..
payment might well be acknowledging the debt..thats not in dispute
but what is ..is the notion one should be blindly paying a DCA at the milking parlour without questioning their legal right to the money.
and yes we all hit judge lottery, but that's rare now.
I remember priority1 well very well
but things have moved on and things change....
esp since the CCA changes
just don't like to see people suggesting one should keep blindly pay a DCA just because they have for so many years...
yes have had a truecall box from day one too, wonderful box.
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