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    • Hi, In my last post I mentioned I had received an email from SS who were asking me to hand over the keys to my mother’s flat so they could pass them to the Law firm who have been appointed court of protection to access, secure and insure my mother’s property.  Feeling this, all quickly getting out of my hands I emailed ss requesting proof of this. I HAVEN’T HEARD BACK FROM SS.  Yesterday, I received an email (with attached court of protection order) from the Law Firm confirming this was correct (please see below a copy of this).  After reading the court of protection order I do have some concerns about it:   (a)   I only found out yesterday, the Law firm had been appointed by the court back in January.  Up until now, I have not received any notification regarding this.  (b)   Section 2   - States I am estranged from my mother.  This is NOT CORRECT    The only reason I stepped back from my mother was to protect myself from the guy (groomer) who had befriended her & was very aggressive towards me & because of my mother’s dementia she had become aggressive also.  I constantly tried to warned SS about this guy's manipulative behaviour towards my mother and his increasing aggressiveness towards me (as mentioned in previous posts).  Each time I was ignored.  Instead, SS encouraged his involvement with my mother – including him in her care plans and mental health assessments.   I was literally pushed out because I feared him and my mother’s increasing aggression towards me. Up until I stepped back, I had always looked after my mother and since her admission to the care home, I visit regularly.   .(c)    Sections -  4, 5 and 7  I am struggling to understand these as I don’t have a legal background.  I was wondering if there is anyone who might be able to explain what they mean.  It’s been a horrendous situation where I had to walk away from my mother at her most vulnerable because of; ss (not helping), scammer and groomer. I have no legal background, nor experience in highly manipulative people or an understanding of how the SS system operates, finding myself isolated, scared and powerless to the point I haven’t collected my personal belongings and items for my mother’s room in the care home.  Sadly, the court has only had heard one version of this story SS’s, and based their decision on that. My mother’s situation and the experience I have gone through could happen to anyone who has a vulnerable parent.    If anyone any thoughts on this much appreciated.  Thank you. ______________________________________________________  (Below is the Court of Protection Order)  COURT OF PROTECTION                                                                                                                                                                                   No xxx  MENTAL CAPACITY ACT 2005 In the matter of Name xxx ORDER Made by  Depty District Judge At xxx Made on xxx Issued on 18 January 2024  WHEREAS  1.     xxx Solicitors, Address xxx  ("Applicant”) has applied for an order under the Mental Capacity Act 2005.  2.     The Court notes (my mother) is said to be estranged from all her three children and only one, (me) has been notified.  3.     (Me) was previously appointed as Atorney for Property and Affairs for (my mother).  The Exhibity NAJ at (date) refers to (me) and all replacement Attorneys are now officially standing down.  4.     Pursuant to Rule 9.10 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 and Practice Direction 9B the Applicant 2must seek to identify at least three persons who are likely to have an interest in being notified that an application has been issues.”  The children of (my mother), and any other appointed attorneys are likely to have an interest in the application, because of the nature of relationship to (my mother).  5.     The Court considers that the notification requirements are an important safeguard for the person in respect of whom an order is sought.  6.     The Court notes that it is said that the local authority no longer has access to (my mother’s) Property.  7.     Further information is required for the Court to determine the application.  IT IS ORDERED THAT  Within 28 days of the issue date this order, the Applicant shall file a form COP24 witness statement confirming that the other children of (my mother) and any replacement attorneys have been notified of the application and shall confirm their name, address, and date upon which those persons were notified.  If the Applicant wishes the Court to dispense with any further notification, they should file a COP9 and COP24 explaining, what steps (if any) have been taken to attempt notification and why notification should be dispensed with.   Pending the determination of the application to appoint a deputy for (my mother), the Applicant is authorised to take such steps as are proportionate and necessary to access, secure and insure the house and property of (my mother).   This order was made without a hearing and without notice.  Any person affected by this order may apply within 21 days of the date on which the order was served to have the order set aside or varied pursuant to Rule 13.4 of the Court of Protection Rules 2017 (“the Rules”).  Such application must be made on Form COP9 and in accordance with Part 10 Rules.              
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    • I would say You should accept it - I HIGHLY doubt you will  be able to claim for letters at trial ans they’re offering you that, which is higher monetary value than interest.   Also they raise a good point, getting interest at anything above 4% is lucky these days, yes judges give it, but rarily above 4%   Also you might find depending on the judge  you don’t get some costs if you take it all the way over £7.40 when court woukdnt award letters costs and thus meaning their award would be less than evris offer which was made    Up to you though but the wait will be 3-4mo for a trial date at least
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Hello all,

 

Posting on behalf of a work colleague. Have passed them site details and suggested they register themselves.

 

The person in question works as a cleaner for a third party company who have a contact with our business.

 

Our business is part of a much larger group who are currently restructuring.

 

As part of the restructure, our business is moving from its current facility to a new shared site along with other parts of the organisation.

 

For this reason our contract with the cleaning company is due be terminated.

 

This now leaves the cleaner, who has 8 years service at this site, all be it possibly with differing cleaning comapanies.

By this I mean that although the contracted agent has maybe changed it has always been the person holding the position and performing the duties. They have essentially moved with the contact.

 

They have now been informed that once the closes they are basically redundant.

It is also being claimed they they are not entitled to any redundancy as it not them, her employer (cleaning company) who are making them redundant but us as we the ones moving site.

 

No other positions are available for them to be relocated / transferred to.

 

What are their rights in this case ?

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Quick edit on the above.

The contract has been held by the same company for the 8 years in question and the cleaner has been employed and posted here for the duration of this time.

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A little further information.

 

They have been employed with the same company for 8 to 9 years, have only ever been located in this current building.

 

For the past 4 years plus have been working 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. A total of 30 hrs a week.

 

They are not sure of they have a written contract etc.

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A little further information.

 

They have been employed with the same company for 8 to 9 years, have only ever been located in this current building.

 

For the past 4 years plus have been working 6 hours a day, 5 days a week. A total of 30 hrs a week.

 

They are not sure of they have a written contract etc.

 

The problem is that many cleaners are on zero hours contacts (workers, not employees) or self employed. We rally cannot guess at this. The differences are enormous, because only employees are entitled too redundancy pay at all, but they're are other issues, for example TUPE, which may apply. If this person posted themselves, and if they knew the answers to some of this, we might be able to help. But giving advice to a third party who doesn't know anything about it isn't going to work.

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Now, as thay are employed by a contractor the contractor has a choice of redeploying or redundancy. Problem with this particular sector is that many employees are foreign so dont understand their rights and so are told they are now unemployed as the result of the loss of that contract when that isnt actually the whole story.

Probably not a zero hours contract but TUPE'd many times but thatwont cahnge things as far as rights go. However, start redundancy isnt very generous and employers in this sector like to redeploy and the didmiss for spurious reasons rather than pay up.

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Turns out they have a written contract stipulating working hours among some other details.

 

They have been told there is no chance of redeployment as there are no other sites available and that they will be "made redundant".

 

It will only be statutory but that is better than nothing the employer first claimed was payable having seen their error.

 

They are now in line to receive 8 years worth of redundancy along with any outstanding holiday pay etc.

 

A happy, successful and correct outcome.

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