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    • I have received a PCN from Euro Car Parks for MFG - Esso Cobham - Gravesend. I was completely unaware that there was any such limit for parking and always considered this to be a service station. I stopped there to use the toilet, have a coffee and made a couple of work calls. I have read the previous topics on this location which suggest I can ignore this and ECP will not take legal action. The one possible complication is that the vehicle is leased by my employer so I do not want to involve them with the associated reminders and threatening letters. The PCN was first issued to the leasing company Arval who have notified ECP of the hiring company. I have attached a copy of the PCN Notice to Hirer with details removed as per instructions. What options do I have or should I just pay the PCN promptly at the reduced rate of £60? img20240424_23142631.pdf
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    • Thanks for posting the CPR contents. i do wish you hadn't blanked out the dates and times since at times they can be relevant . Can you please repost including times and dates. They say that they sent a copy of  the original  PCN that they sent to the Hirer  along with your hire agreement documents. Did you receive them and if so can you please upload the original PCN without erasing dates and times. If they did include  all the paperwork they said, then that PCN is pretty near compliant except for their error with the discount time. In the Act it isn't actually specified but to offer a discount for 14 days from the OFFENCE is a joke. the offence occurred probably a couple of months prior to you receiving your Notice to Hirer.  Also the words in parentheses n the Act have been missed off. Section 14 [5][c] (c)warn the hirer that if, after the period of 21 days beginning with the day after that on which the notice to hirer is given, the amount of unpaid parking charges referred to in the notice to keeper under paragraph 8(2)(f) or 9(2)(f) (as the case may be) has not been paid in full, the creditor will (if any applicable requirements are met) have the right to recover from the hirer so much of that amount as remains unpaid; Though it states "if any applicable ...." as opposed to "if all applicable......" in Section 8 or 9. Maybe the Site could explain what the difference between the two terms mean if there is a difference. Also on your claim form they keeper referring to you as the driver or the keeper.  You are the Hirer and only the Hirer is responsible for the charge EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T THE DRIVER. So they cannot pursue the driver and nowhere in the Hirer section of the Act is the hirer ever named as the keeper so NPC are pursuing the wrong person.  
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I have just fallen foul of this myself.

 

Pretty much my own fault, but the outcome is harsh.

I thought I had signed up for a PPC to run via DD, but it turns out I just bought a 3 month.

 

I was going through a befuddled time - hence the need for medication.

I was told it would make things easier so I guess I just took that at face value and stopped worrying about it. The pharmacy never checked mt validity,

 

7 months later I get a penalty notice for £88 for non-payment 4 months ago.

Having discussed with the NHS, I have the option to backdate a PPC 1 month so I can stop worrying about one of the four other unpaid months (ironically, I just stopped taking one of my two meds so the PPC is actually no longer financially helpful).

 

Apart from that, they can do nothing about the other 3 months.

I just have to wait and see if I get randomly picked out on the checks.

I wanted to pay for these, even at full price, but no can do.

 

maybe I picked the wrong time to drop my anxiety med, as this is causing me some concern. It's not just the money, its the sanity of the whole thing.

 

What if they were 12 months behind on checking?

I would be staring down a potential 4 figure fine over a 12 month period, each month containing the expectancy of another letter fine-bomb.

 

This kind of thing is enough to bring on further anxiety issues and the need for further NHS help!

 

I cannot pay for the ones I missed, they are actually missing the money for those.

if I don't get randomly picked for the other months, they get nothing.

 

This at a time when they are desperate for money.

 

Yes, I understand it is my responsibility, but those that spout this kind of reaction need to put themselves in the same position and be a bit more empathetic. Negligence of some sort happens to us all at times I am sure, especially when we are not feeling too great about life.

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The pharmacy never checked mt validity,

 

7 months later I get a penalty notice for £88 for non-payment 4 months ago.

 

 

You can appeal the PCN here if you meet the grounds to appeal;

 

 

https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/challenge-penalty-charge-notice

 

 

What if they were 12 months behind on checking?

I would be staring down a potential 4 figure fine over a 12 month period, each month containing the expectancy of another letter fine-bomb.

 

 

Yes, that can and does happen.

 

 

Also check if you qualify for the NHS Low Income Scheme;

 

 

https://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/nhs-low-income-scheme

 

 

If so, you may be able to claim backdated prescription costs within the last three months by filling out an HC5 form.

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