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    Default ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portishead,

    Hi Guys,

    I am here looking for some help with a matter regarding a parking eyeicon court claim sent to my partner that arrived last week.

    This is the first we have heard of any infringement and have had no prior correspondence or mail from parking eyeicon .

    Our Front door opens directly onto the pavement and we do get occasional issues of children pulling mail that hasn't been pushed all the way through, out of mailboxes as they run past and throwing them all over the close.

    I have been scouring the internet for advice but can't find anything for this issue as yet
    I am about to send a letter to parking eye and a response to the Claim court but don't want to make any glaring mistakes
    any help would be gratefully appreciated


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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portishead,

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portishead,

    Name of Claimant.............. PARKINGEYE LTD

    Claimants Solicitor............. ROSANNA BREAKS (CLAIMANTS LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE)

    Date of Issue................... 25th June 2018

    Particulars of Claim...........


    1. Claim for monies outstanding from the defendant, as registered keeper, in relation to a parking chargeicon, issued 17/03/2018, for parking on private land in breach of the terms and conditions (the contract).

    2.ParkingEye's automated number plate recognition system, monitoring site M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portishead, BS20 7DE, Captured Vehicle ****** entering and leaving the car park, overstaying the max time stay time.


    The Signage, Clearly Displayed at the entrance to and throughout the carpark, states that this is private land, is managed by ParkingEye Ltd, and is a max stay site, along with other T+C's by which those who park on site agree to be bound.

    In accordance with the T+C's set out in the signage, the parking chargeicon became payable.
    Notice under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 has been given under Such 4, making the keeper Liable.
    This claim is in reference to Parking Charge(s) 1/2

    AMOUNT OF CLAIM

    Amount Claimed £100.00
    Court Fee £ 25.00
    Legal Representative's £ 50.00
    costs
    TOTAL AMOUNT £175.00

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    it will say who the claimant is and its PE
    don't need anymore info now.

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    pop up on the MCOL website detailed on the claimformicon.
    .
    register as an individual
    note the long gateway number given
    then log in
    .
    select respond to a claim and select the start AOS box.
    .
    then using the details required from the claimform
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    defend all
    leave jurisdiction unticked.
    click thru to the end
    confirm and exit MCOL.
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    get a CPR 31:14icon request running to the solicitors
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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    it would appear the day of the alleged offence was 13/03/2018 as it is not an area we frequent but had attended aa family dinner at this location at a restaurant called 'The Posset Cup'

    we have since returned to the site to look at the signage,
    obviously the weather and amount of daylight are different,
    but the signs have no direct illumination and quite a lot of small print,

    on the presumed day of the alleged offence my partner had our 5 year daughter with her and day light was fading fast sunset being about 18:10

    The posset cup now displays a large sign on its entrance stating

    The Posset Cup
    Customer Notice:
    Register your full
    correct number plate
    to extend your
    parking limit to
    5hours
    ask a member of staff at the bar for
    instructions


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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    ok well get post 5 done
    that's the important bits to do
    we can worry about the other stuff later.

    but whatever you do DO NOT miss your defence filing date!!

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    Default Re: CPR 31.14 Request to use on receipt of a PPC ( Private Land Parking Court Claim)

    do i mention we have had no prior correspondence ?


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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    no just send the 31:14 as is.

    please keep to your own thread
    random post to 31:14 thread moved here.

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    In the meantime please do not contact PE since there is a danger that you may identify yourself as the driver.
    At the moment they only have the address of the keeper who is not necessarily also the driver.

    Courts know this but parking companies tend to gloss over that hoping that the keeper will not know and thus force them to pay up as they think they will lose in Court.
    Properly defended cases rarely lose.

    Once you have all the knowledge needed you can then write to the Court and destroy their stupid claim perhaps so well that they decide not to turn up.
    [It often happens-when they see the defence .]

    Sometimes the reason you get no prior notices is that you may have moved house recently and you have not notified the DVLA of that change.
    As there has been no reply to their letters prior to issuing a Court claim they may have rechecked your current address.

    To help build a strong case for you we do need photos of their signs at the car park especially
    at the entrance;
    pictures of other signs that have different charges or terms to the one at the entrance and
    pictures of the ticket machine if there is one.

    PE tend not to observe the Law in their car parks so usually do not have permission to erect signs or ANPR cameras on site [illegal not unlawful -there is a big difference]

    neither do they often have permission from the landowner to institute proceedings against motorists even though they may have it from an agent of the landowner.

    It is therefore very worthwhile to check with the local Council planning department to confirm they have planning permission for notices and ANPR [two different permissions] already in place.

    A check with the Land Registry will confirm who the current landowner is and they may not be the same company that had an agreement possibly via agents with PE.

    I appreciate there are a few things for you to do and you do not have a great deal of time but it should save you paying out any money to PE.

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    Have been on the NCOL website and completed Acknowledgement of service.

    'Your acknowledgment of service was submitted on 07/07/2018 at 23:21:04'

    I have drafted the CPR 31:14icon letter
    and will post first thing Monday Morning
    would you recommend registering the letter ?


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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    just use free proof of posting via 1st class stamp available at any PO counter
    you only have to prove you sent it.

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    CPR 31:14icon SENT and proof of posting filed
    should i post photographs of the car park signage, receipt from the restaurant (The Posset Cup) here as i collect them ?


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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    to ONE multipage PDFicon yes ...read uploadicon

    but whatever you do DO NOT miss your defence filing date!!

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    we dont need to see a restuarant receipt, just the signage.
    It is the parking co that offers you a contract and that is by way of their signs.

    Now the owner of the land may have conditions in place that allows its tenants like the posset cup to get any parking chargesicon cancelled so do chase that up as it may remove the right to make claims from PE.

    try yo get it in writing, generally an email will suffice and going in with a letter to sign may well raise suspicions.
    Dont use email for communication with PE though.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScarletPreacher View Post
    CPR 31:14icon SENT and proof of posting filed
    should i post photographs of the car park signage, receipt from the restaurant (The Posset Cup) here as i collect them ?



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    We don't believe this signage was in place at the time of the alleged incident (13th March 2018) and believe that this may be as a direct result of ParkingEyes negative effect on its clientele .

    Which Would suggest any "loss" to Patronage or of 'Good will" may be as a direct action of parkingeyeicon and not customers using the car park ??
    how do i attach a PDFicon ?

    I note in a previous post from a fellow user

    Bellx15
    #17 posted 12th March 2018
    who has a very similar incident that he has received a lettericon from
    Tom Coleman , Deputy Manager of the Posset cup Stating ......

    "Unfortunately the car park is not owned by Wetherspoon, therefore it is completely out of our control.

    However there have been sings up about the parking since before Christmas time, and then became active in the new year.

    There are two entrances to the car park, in front of ‘Home Bargains’ & ‘Majestic Wines’ are one side and ‘Subway’ & ‘Lidl’ the other. The camera either side picks up the registration number of the cars as they enter and exit.

    Since then we have had a tablet installed at the end of our bar so our customers can put their registration number in and it will up the parking limit from 2 hours to 5 hours, this has been in place since mid-march in an attempt to help out our customers to the best of our ability.

    The only thing I can suggest is sending your receipts off with an appeal, however with the tablet in place, it is highly unlikely your appeal will go through.

    Hope this has been helpful.

    Kind Regards


    Tom Coleman
    Duty Manager
    The Posset Cup
    Mustad Way
    Portishead
    BS20 7DE
    "

    I am currently in Wales but hope to Get images of most Signage this weekend

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    Default Re: ParkingEye ANPR PCM Claimform - overstay - M&U Phase 1, Portishead (Lidl, Travelodge, Subway), Harbour Road, Portish

    so, read the sign and it makes it seem if you break the conditions laid out by the little pictures then you owe them £100. Doesnt say a thing about staying longer then 2 hours, esp when the stay can be extended at whim so noty a breach of contract. Thismay seem like a small point but that is how these people work.


    Now we need to see the signs as described by Tom and then you fnd out if PE have planning permission for them.
    I would also be inclined to contact John Hutson CEO of Wetherspoons and Tim Martin, its founder. The latter is not the friend of red tape and might just say something to PE's owners if it looks like his customers are being screwed by stealth so lay it on with a trowel. They no longer use social media so linkedin or pen and paper

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