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    • My defence was standard no paperwork:   1.The Defendant contends that the particulars of claim are generic in nature. The Defendant accordingly sets out its case below and relies on CPR r 16.5 (3) in relation to any particular allegation to which a specific response has not been made. 2. Paragraph 1 is noted. The Defendant has had a contractual relationship with MBNA Limited in the past. The Defendant does not recognise the reference number provided by the claimant within its particulars and has sought verification from the claimant who is yet to comply with requests for further information. 3. Paragraph 2 is denied. The Defendant maintains that a default notice was never received. The Claimant is put to strict proof to that a default notice was issued by MBNA Limited and received by the Defendant. 4. Paragraph 3 is denied. The Defendant is unaware of any legal assignment or Notice of Assignment allegedly served from either the Claimant or MBNA Limited. 5. On the 02/01/2023 the Defendant requested information pertaining to this claim by way of a CCA 1974 Section 78 request. The claimant is yet to respond to this request. On the 19/05/2023 a CPR 31.14 request was sent to Kearns who is yet to respond. To date, 02/06/2023, no documentation has been received. The claimant remains in default of my section 78 request. 6. It is therefore denied with regards to the Defendant owing any monies to the Claimant, the Claimant has failed to provide any evidence of proof of assignment being sent/ agreement/ balance/ breach or termination requested by CPR 31.14, therefore the Claimant is put to strict proof to: (a) show how the Defendant entered into an agreement; and (b) show and evidence the nature of breach and service of a default notice pursuant to Section 87(1) CCA1974 (c) show how the claimant has reached the amount claimed for; and (d) show how the Claimant has the legal right, either under statute or equity to issue a claim; 7. As per Civil Procedure Rule 16.5(4), it is expected that the Claimant prove the allegation that the money is owed. 8. On the alternative, as the Claimant is an assignee of a debt, it is denied that the Claimant has the right to lay a claim due to contraventions of Section 136 of the Law of Property Act and Section 82A of the consumer credit Act 1974. 9. By reasons of the facts and matters set out above, it is denied that the Claimant is entitled to the relief claimed or any relief.
    • Monika the first four pages of the Private parking section have at least 12 of our members who have also been caught out on this scam site. That's around one quarter of all our current complaints. Usually we might expect two current complaints for the same park within 4 pages.  So you are in good company and have done well in appealing to McDonalds in an effort to resolve the matter without having  paid such a bunch of rogues. Most people blindly pay up. Met . Starbucks and McDonalds  are well aware of the situation and seem unwilling to make it easier for motorists to avoid getting caught. For instance, instead of photographing you, if they were honest and wanted you  to continue using their services again, they would have said "Excuse me but if you are going to go to Mc donalds from here, it will cost you £100." But no they kett quiet and are now pursuing you for probably a lot more than £100 now. They also know thst  they cannot charge anything over the amount stated on the car park signs. Their claims for £160 or £170 are unlawful yet so many pay that to avoid going to Court. When the truth is that Met are unlikely to take them to Court since they know they will lose. The PCNs are issued on airport land which is covered by Byelaws so only the driver can be pursued, not the keeper. But they keep writing to you as they do not know who was driving unless you gave it away when you appealed. Even if they know you were driving they should still lose in Court for several reasons. The reason we ask you to fill out our questionnaire is to help you if MET do decide to take you to Court in the end. Each member who visited the park may well have different experiences while there which can help when filling out a Witness statement [we will help you with that if it comes to it.] if you have thrown away the original PCN  and other paperwork you obviously haven't got a jerbil or a guinea pig as their paper makes great litter boxes for them.🙂 You can send an SAR to them to get all the information Met have on you to date. Though if you have been to several sites already, you may have done that by now. In the meantime, you will be being bombarded by illiterate debt collectors and sixth rate solicitors all threatening you with ever increasing amounts as well as being hung drawn and quartered. Their letters can all be safely ignored. On the odd chance that you may get a Letter of Claim from them just come back to us and we will get you to send a snotty letter back to them so that they know you are not happy, don't care a fig for their threats and will see them off in Court if they finally have the guts to carry on. If you do have the original PCN could you please post it up, carefully removing your name. address and car registration number but including dates and times. If not just click on the SAR to take you to the form to send to Met.
    • In order for us to help you we require the following information:- [if there are more than one defendant listed - tell us] 1 defendant   Which Court have you received the claim from ? County Court Business Centre, Northampton   Name of the Claimant ? LC Asset 2 S.A R.L   Date of issue – . 28/04/23   Particulars of Claim   What is the claim for –    (1) The Claimant ('C') claims the whole of the outstanding balance due and payable under an agreement referenced xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and opened effective from xx/xx/2017. The agreement is regulated by the Consumer Credit Act 1974 ('CCA'), was signed by the Defendant ('D') and from which credit was extended to D.   (2) D failed to comply with a Default Notice served pursuant to s87 (1) CCA and by xx/xx/2022 a default was recorded.   (3) As at xx/xx/2022 the Defendant owed MBNA LTD the sum of 12,xxx.xx. By an agreement in writing the benefit of the debt has been legally assigned to C effective xx/xx/2022 and made regular upon C serving a Notice of Assignment upon D shortly thereafter.   (4) And C claims- 1. 12,xxx.xx 2. Interest pursuant to Section 69 County Courts Act 1984 at a rate of 8% per annum from xx/01/2023 to xx/04/2023 of 2xx.xx and thereafter at a daily rate of 2.52 to date of judgement or sooner payment. Date xx/xx/2023   What is the total value of the claim? 12k   Have you received prior notice of a claim being issued pursuant to paragraph 3 of the PAPDC (Pre Action Protocol) ? Yes   Have you changed your address since the time at which the debt referred to in the claim was allegedly incurred? No   Did you inform the claimant of your change of address? N/A Is the claim for - a Bank Account (Overdraft) or credit card or loan or catalogue or mobile phone account? Credit Card   When did you enter into the original agreement before or after April 2007 ? After   Do you recall how you entered into the agreement...On line /In branch/By post ? Online   Is the debt showing on your credit reference files (Experian/Equifax /Etc...) ? Yes, but amount differs slightly   Has the claim been issued by the original creditor or was the account assigned and it is the Debt purchaser who has issued the claim. DP issued claim   Were you aware the account had been assigned – did you receive a Notice of Assignment? Not that I recall...   Did you receive a Default Notice from the original creditor? Not that I recall...   Have you been receiving statutory notices headed “Notice of Sums in Arrears”  or " Notice of Arrears "– at least once a year ? Yes   Why did you cease payments? Loss of employment main cause   What was the date of your last payment? Early 2021   Was there a dispute with the original creditor that remains unresolved? No   Did you communicate any financial problems to the original creditor and make any attempt to enter into a debt management plan? No   -----------------------------------
    • Hello CAG Team, I'm adding the contents of the claim to this thread, but wanted to open the thread with an urgent question: Do I have to supply a WS for a claim with a court date that states " at the hearing the court will consider allocation and, time permitting, give an early neutral evaluation of the case" ? letter is an N24 General Form of Judgement or Order, if so, then I've messed up again. Court date 25 May 2024 The letter from court does not state (like the other claims I have) that I must provide WS within 28 days.. BUT I have recently received a WS from Link for it! making me think I do need to!??
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For the past 10 years I have had various dca's/solicitors pursuing me for a mortgage shortfall debt after a repo in 1998.

.I naively left the house after an ex partner said he would be able to afford to pay on his own.

 

.the house got repo'd a few years down the line and as it was his fault he agreed to sort the debt out.

.he started a payment plan and I had no contact from any dca etc..

 

.that was till about 10 years ago when I started to receive letters again and found out that my ex had left the country(Australia I believe) and had obviously stopped payments..now I am left saddled with the debt.

 

.all I have had is letters showing the original debt and debt as it stands..

I have never in the 20 years years since the repo seen a full breakdown of how the debt was calculated

..is it too late to SAR the bank in question as I read you only have 6 years to appeal the debt??

 

Also I would would like people's thoughts on dealing with this matter.

it's been hanging over me for so long and causing a great deal of stress.

 

.the last thing I want is it to end up in court and have to pay a sum each month that I can't afford.

.I did email the dca(moorcroft) about a month ago saying I wasn't in a position to pay anything due to financial circumstances and having no assets and live in rented accommodation.they have now sent a I and e form to send back which I haven't done..

 

.any advice on what to do next will be greatly appreciated.

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No it's not too late to send an SAR and you send it to the original creditor. In principle mortgage debts do not expire until 12 years after the last Miss payment. In practice the debts not recoverable after six years. Have you any idea when the last payment was made?

 

It may have been a mistake to write to them. Did you acknowledge or admit the debt in any way?

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The last payment would have been about 10 years ago when he left the country

.i have made no payments and the only contact I've made is to email them about a month ago explaining my financial circumstances.

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DON'T email them from now on.

 

 

Whatever they wish to convey can be committed in writing.

 

 

WHO is this DCA?

 

 

Keep EVERYTHING in writing, no phone calls or email.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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Moorcroft..can they still pursue me for this debt as it's been 10 years since last payment was made

Why has the debt just being passed from one dca/solicitors to another

I've had threats of court proceedings but they never materialise.

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Ha ha ha ha, Moorcr@p, the bottom of the barrel!!!!

 

 

What did their last empty threat letter claim?

 

 

You can seriously ignore these fools, the reason why it gets passed from pillar to post is simply because it's all a big money making scheme..These DCA's sell portfolio's of debts for millions to each other, where they pay as little as 6p in the pound for individual debts, they then chase those debtors for the full balance owing, even offering a discount to appear more reasonable, when in actual fact the debtor will be paying three or four times the true value of the account.

 

 

Moorcr@p, brilliant!! Ignore them until they send you anything in writing, and even then I doubt they'd have much to say.

Who ever heard of someone getting a job at the Jobcentre? The unemployed are sent there as penance for their sins, not to help them find work!

 

 

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I don't think they own the debt as they state in the letters they are acting on behalf of the halifax.

they have only recently in the past few months taken the case on

so as of yet I have only been asked to get in touch to make a payment plan or discounted f and f payment which is a no no because I have no savings so no threats yet

 

so you think i should do nothing at the mo

 

I'm very worried that it will end in court.

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Halifax have sent a whole portfolio of these old shortfall debts to Moorcroft to chase

 

you are safe to ignore the powerless DCA..

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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no

its just Halifax trying to make some money.

 

I would assume that they are not aware of your correct address?

and Moorcroft are just sending phishing letters for mugs to fleece as they get a cut

 

original creditors do not do court

they'll see the debt on.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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is It therefore inevitable that they sell the debt on??

 

And if the debt is sold on would I still be negotiate token payments or even a f and f settlement if I could raise the cash?

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why?

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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why are you ever thinking you need to pay anything??

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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because they will want money..and so will the company they sell it to wouldn't They? But then again I do wonder why they haven't already done so in the 10 years?? Are you saying it could just stop if I carry on ignoring?

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it already has

this is simply what dca's do when they are employed to do so

did you read those other threads?

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Not as yet but will tomorrow as due to start work..

Will get back to you after I've read up on the threads if I have any more queries if you don't mind but thanks for you input so far.

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please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi again

..had a look at those threads and realised I had already seen them on previous visits to forum

(I have spent whole days scouring forums for suitable advice!).

 

.the advice you(and others) give is always very good but the one thing that's always seems to be sadly lacking in the threads is final outcome

 

.the only things I have surmised from reading the threads and your advice so far is that

1.dca can't do Jack!

2.original creditors will sell debt not take me to court.

 

For now I think it's quite safe to assume that I can ignore moorcroft till they go away.

i also think(if your advice is correct) that sometime in the near future they will sell the debt as it's been 10 years since last payment so is nearly at the end 12 years statue barred period..

 

what id like you to advise me on now if I've got anything to worry about IF the debt is indeed sold on?

How should I deal with them??

 

I would also like to ask at this point if it's any use sending halifax a SAR..

my thinking is that there's might be a chance that after 20 years after the actual repo they may not have the correct documentation to make the debt enforceable.

 

. your thought and advice will be very much appreciated.

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Good work

 

Have you moved and halifax dont know your current address?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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I would sar them then

Lets them know where you are

And gets the info if if if they do anything

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You should never run from debt!

Sar them .... 2 birds with one stone

Gets info

Updates address

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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