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    • it is NOT A FINE.....this is an extremely important point to understand no-one bar a magistrate in a magistrates criminal court can ever fine anyone for anything. Private Parking Tickets (speculative invoices) are NOT a criminal matter, merely a speculative contractual Civil matter hence they can only try a speculative monetary claim via the civil county court system (which is no more a legal powers matter than what any member of Joe Public can do). Until/unless they do raise a county court claim a CCJ and win, there are not ANY enforcement powers they can undertake other than using a DCA, whom are legally powerless and are not BAILIFFS. Penalty Charge Notices issued by local authorities etc were decriminalised years ago - meaning they no longer can progress a claim to the magistrates court to enforce, but go directly to legal enforcement via a real BAILIFF themselves. 10'000 of people waste £m's paying private parking companies because they think they are FINES...and the media do not help either. the more people read the above the less income this shark industry get. where your post said fine it now says charge .............. please fill out the Q&A ASAP. dx  
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Hi all,

 

After more great advice on top of what I have already received from here.

 

First issue:

I sent a bog standard prove it letter to BPO Collections this month (using template from either here or National debt line).

Apparently they now own a debt from Motormile Finance/Lantern.

 

 

I think I took a payday loan out in 2011/12 with CFO,

who went bust,

debts purchased by Motormile,

who changed names to Lantern,

who have assigned this to BPO.

 

 

It becomes very confusing to keep track of name changes and who owns who.

 

The letter I received back states (amongst the usual twaddle):

 

"BPO collections and Latern do not acknowledge the unilateral terms and conditions and time frames that you have outlined in your correspondence. Nor do we agree to any such conditions or fee schedules received from you in the future"

" Your correspondence appears to be based on forum templates widely available on the internet.

Should you have any concerns about your account then please advise us of these and we would be happy to look into these.

Please be advised that failure to address the outstanding balance could affect your credit file."

"Within your correspondence you have required that we provide you with a variety of information and documents including the names of individuals within the organisation and then names of agencies working on Lantern behalf in terms of your account. There is no requirement for Lantern to provide the documents you ave requested. Nor are the reasons for you requesting this information clear."

"We are unable to supply you with a copy of the deed of assignment as this account was purchased as a part of a bulk of accounts and there fore assignment will hold personal data in relation to our other customers. However, you were sent an email of assignment on 17th May 2018 notifying you that BPO Collections would contact you regarding the outstanding balance on your account."

 

 

What should be my next step?

 

 

they are refusing the prove anything if I'm reading that right.

 

 

I've checked my credit file (3 different agencies) and if there was anything on there from CFO/Motormile/Lantern/BPO it isn't on there anymore.

I don't ever recall paying anything to any of these companies or speaking to them.

 

Second issue:

I sent a Statue Barred letter to BW Legal in regards to a PRAC/PayDayLoans debt.

Again it was from a template from either here or the National Debt Line.

 

 

They have replied back with the following:

"Our client has advised the loan was taken out on February 10th 2012 and the default date was April 10th 2012.

We trust this now concludes any outstanding queries you had raised with ourselves. It is important that you now contact us in order for us to discuss an affordable payment arrangement.

Failure to contact us within 14 days may lead to the following:

Further collections activity or

Further legal action."

 

 

Followed by the usual how to pay stuff.

 

Firstly, they have the dates wrong as my credit file states that it was started on 10/01/2012 and the default registered 1/7/2012.

Secondly they already sent a letter of claim for court action in November last year but never followed it up (I foolishly didn't reply at the time due to ignorance on my behalf).

 

I haven't paid a bean or acknowledged debt.

 

So this is statue barred right?

How should I respond or should I even bother?

I'd like to put something to them that draws the matter to a close,

but I thought the SB letter was meant to do that?

 

Thanking you in advance.

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looks like you sent stupid freeman of the land twaddle letters

 

simply send OUR sb letter [in the debt collection section of out library]

and then ignore them

 

dx

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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