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Only signed up today but I've been reading quite a few posts.

Can't wait to use Slick132 letters in regards to Harlands / CRS.

 

How am I best starting the letters as they don't have my correct email or even my address (never moved yet never received any letters they've said they've sent me)?

 

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Moved to the gym forum

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Stuff all they can do

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Backstory ...

 

I had signed up for a 12 month NHS offer with X4L at £1 per month.

I only went to the gym once but kept the contract going until the 12 months were up.

 

I then forgot to cancel so actually paid an extra 3 months at £9.99 (no further contract).

 

When I realised this I cancelled my DD through my bank,

I realise now I should have given 30 days notice.

 

I contacted X4L when I first received the "your account is in default " message and they told me I had an admin fee to pay!!!

 

From then on I've ignored everything and only ever received phone calls and texts, no emails or letters.

 

My question is so I need to check they have my correct address before sending them a letter offering my notice £9.99 payment?

 

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Well you could

But imho you had no need to pay those 3 £9.99 payments.

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Whos says you cant get it back?

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Chargeback from you bank or dd guarantee

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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You say 12 mts

What did it say the terms were after that 12 mts!

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Annieb and welcome to CAG

 

Sorry but I think you have no right to reclaim the DD payments of 29.97 paid since the m/ship went beyond the initial 12 months.

 

If you wanted to cancel, you should have given notice in the last of the initial 12 months. You didn't so the gym was right to treat the m/ship as an ongoing rolling monthly agreement.

 

Use one of my drafts to offer a final 9.99 which you now realise you should have paid before stopping the DD's. Once they refuse to accept your offer, you can simply ignore them.

 

Get a free Cert of Posting when sending the offer letter.

 

Put the draft here for checking first if you want.

 

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Harlands at their Haywards Heath address.

 

The letter goes to them by post as per other threads and don't speak to the gym or Harlands/CRS by phone for any reason; no emails either.

 

No contact apart from the 14 day offer letter.

 

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Hi,

 

I eventually got round to sending the letter and CRS replied bang on the 14 day mark saying they won't accept the £9.99 offer. I sent the letter to Harlands but didn't hear from them.

 

CRS have since posted me another letter and attempted to contact me several times.

 

Where do I go next?

 

Thanks Anna

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Nowhere

Ignore them

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Ignore. They've had their chance. You'll get 1 or 2 more letters then they'll stop

Any advice i give is my own and is based solely on personal experience. If in any doubt about a situation , please contact a certified legal representative or debt counsellor..

 

 

If my advice helps you, click the star icon at the bottom of my post and feel free to say thanks

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Read it properly and the advice already given

Doesnt say will anything

And its from a dca

Not the gym

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Then you need to read other threads

 

Now go back and read the letter PROPERLY

Where does it use the word WILL?

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DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Had to hide your upload

Name showing....

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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option 1 or 2 =further actions..read the letter properly!

 

well 2 it is then

 

have you not bothered since june to read one other gym thread here?

 

only the owner of the debt can do court - not a DCA

no gym has done court since +2012

 

nearly every gym thread tells you this

please don't hit Quote...just type we know what we said earlier..

DCA's view debtors as suckers, marks and mugs

NO DCA has ANY legal powers whatsoever on ANY debt no matter what it's Type

and they

are NOT and can NEVER  be BAILIFFS. even if a debt has been to court..

If everyone stopped blindly paying DCA's Tomorrow, their industry would collapse overnight... 

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Hi Annieb,

 

Please read other threads.

 

Harlands/CRS make these threats all the time but never follow through with action.

 

Ignore the threats and don't respond at all.

 

Keep us posted.

 

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