Euro car parks have issued a Notice to keeper.

Date of Event: 17/05/18

Date issued: 24/05/18

After winning a previous case on parking and being very careful (mostly) my wife was issued with a Notice to keeper for parking on land which see assumed was council or public pay and display parking (with a disabled badge.

However little did she know it was another badly signed car park by yet another bunch of crooks! Now another battle..

So this wasn't a windscreen ticket but anpr that show just the number plates!.

What's the correct route to seeing these fools off?

Cheers again

Thread moved to the private parking forum.

HB

Could you give us the information requested in the forum sticky please?

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?462118-Have-you-received-a-Parking-Ticket-(1-Viewing)-nbsp

HB

please answer the following questions.*

1 Date of the infringement 17/05/2018

2 Date on the NTK [this must have been received within 14 days from the 'offence' date] 24/05/2018

3 Date received*29/05/2018

4 Does the NTK mention schedule 4 of The Protections of Freedoms Act 2012? [y/n?]*Yes

5 Is there any photographic evidence of the event?*Only pictures (black and white) of number plates

6 Have you appealed? {y/n?] post up your appeal] No

Have you had a response? [Y/N?] post it up*

7 Who is the parking company?*Euro car parks

8. Where exactly [carpark name and town]*West Street Car Park Newbury

For either option, does it say which appeals body they operate under.

ECP used to get the wording of their NTK's wrong so what is it they say has been done to cause you to owe the money? Does htis breach or contractual condition actually match a clause on ther signage?

Now West St car park is a council car park so exactly where was the car parked as there are several parking spaces by buildings and another smaller car park as well. The one opposite the council car park is run by ECP so is this it?

She was parked right down the far end of this car Park within a marked disabled bay with a badge.

As on the NTK..

We are using cameras to capture images of vehicles entering and leaving the car Park to calculate their length of stay.

The signage, which is clearly displayed at the entrance to and throughout the car Park states that this Is private land, the car Park is managed by ucp and sets out the terms and conditions of the car Park by which those who park in the car Park agree to be bound. The parking charge notice &$#@ has been issued as the vehicle was in breach of the following terms and conditions;

No valid pay and display / permit was purchased.

The vehicle was parked at West Street Car Park. By remaining at the car Park without authorisation, in accordance with the terms and conditions set out in the signage, the parking charge is now payable to Euro car park (as the creditor)

so they dont actually say what the breach was as they go on to say remaining without authorisation which is a matter of trespass and not a contractual matter, not parking or overstaying in a P&D.

The preamble makes this contradictory We will need to see the signage and the full text of their NTK. Post it up with personal details redacted, address car reg, any bar codes and reference No's etc. leave dates and place detail on.

Pictures of signs please plus pictures of the marking meter and any associated blurb as that is the actual contract rather than the signs.

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Can you read upload

Please

Put all those into one multipage pdf so we can zoom

Else we'll be here all day downloading single unrotated pixs

I ,ove these signs at the entrance, they are not contracts but "invitations to treat" so that menas you can take it or leave it. for example, you see a sign in a shop window saying 50% off most items. you go inside and ask about a pair of trousers, the shopkeeper says they are not in the sale so you continue to look around. as the offer of the signage was an invitation to consider futher things, to negotiate and then decide whetehr to buy something or not there is no contract made untill you agree to purchase something at an agreed prie and hand the money over in exchange for the goods. the shopkeeper cat sue you gor not buying the trousers, you cnat demand to have them at half price because of the 50% notice and the shopkeeper cant force you to buy anything just becuse you decided to have a mooch around afer enquiring about said trousers.

The sign is the same, it INVITES yo to consider an offer amde elsewhere but doesnt force yo to accept any subsequent offer and that means that you can park without agreeing the other terms offered by the signsge. Put money in the meter and you HAVE accepted the terms and so can be bound by them.

Disabled badge irrelevant and arguing about that will be a bad idea. By not purchasing a ticket she has avoided all of the things that they can penalise you for as they go on about how to park or display said ticket. She didnt have one so they dont apply and they cant demand £85.

It is clear that they have used ANPR to match ticket and car reg but that isnt in the contract!

Thanks Eb. I will at some point sort the pictures out.. I have plenty more - but as it's early days I'm in no rush.

A notable thing regarding this car Park is there are around 2 or 3 small shop unit car parks to the back which are not owned or run by Euro car parks but you have to drive through this car Park to gain access to them.

At this stage should I ignore or write to them highlighting their contract is naff?

ECP dont own anything but are engaged by the landowner. Now if the land of the smaller units is owed by them that menas you have a cast iron defence if you parked there and even a good case for a claim fo harassment as well as their breach of the DPA/GDPR for misuing your data